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Hi I am a polite and curios Norman who will talk to you veeery carefully not to offend or trigger anyone! I have a few questions :) : Incels
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FACEandLMSWomen, over dating a sub5, would rather get gassed in Auschwitz 6 points7 points 3 days ago

I will answer you if you are not a bot of some kind? How did you find this community? What do you agree/disagree with?

Nanako-san 12 points13 points 3 days ago

I'm not op but I'm also very curious about this community and would love to hear some answers to these questions :)

maryeaster 15 points16 points 8 days ago

That's all in community info dude

toastyroasty69 1 point2 points 3 days ago

Normies don't know how Reddit works, obvs

saenor 36 points37 points 6 days ago

But I think he was asking YOU

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 43 points44 points 8 days ago

does that ever stop anyone?

RichardSnatchhh 30 points31 points 8 days ago

I’m a normie too. What’s wrong with ugly girls? As long as they have a nice ass or a flat stomach that’s good enough for my cock!

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Alia_Harkonnen[S] 9 points10 points 8 days ago

I dunno, think retardo.

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Alia_Harkonnen[S] 6 points7 points 8 days ago

Please figure this one out on your own...

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imightneedhelp101 13 points14 points 8 days ago

Jesus, it's actually absurd that this thread is stickied. Incels get downvoted to oblivion, Normies giving bluepill advices and vote brigard everything they say, how the fuck is this happening? Mods ffs do your jobs.

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 108 points109 points 8 days ago

Don't be retarded.

imightneedhelp101 19 points20 points 8 days ago

Wait I actually am. WTF is wrong with me...

sovnigpige 7 points8 points 7 days ago

I think you might need help

GetRicedd 3 points4 points 8 days ago

Oh shit

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rest_me123 1 point2 points 9 days ago

Is that a metaphor for something?

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justforlulzandkeksKHH, voicecel, eyecel, headcel, suicel, cyborg 6 points7 points 8 days ago

Thanks for the new pasta

BadB0ii 7 points8 points 8 days ago

I would sincerely like to know what was posted before it got removed

Sandstormbae 57 points58 points 9 days ago

You just got offended

chai-chino 116 points117 points 10 days ago

Hm I'm not convinced that this didn't offend you

matthew0001 135 points136 points 11 days ago

10/10 response way to not get offended or overreact. Typical normal human response right here, well done in setting the example for the rest of us.

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matthew0001 4 points5 points 10 days ago

Ho man you really got me, not at all copy pasta right here, a completely new insult onto itself. I tip my fedora to you sir well done.

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knajjd1114, 2/10 PSL - 5'2", ugliest incel, got lucky with alcohol 4 points5 points 13 days ago

ThatBritishPleb 19 points20 points 13 days ago

Youre Rule 6 is stupid. I am a licensed therapist.

schipapo 2 points3 points 6 days ago

Do you have any female patients? Do you feel like you understand women well?

ThatBritishPleb 3 points4 points 6 days ago

I have had female patients. I dont feel like I understand anyone well to be honest.

Dontnerfmegarry 7 points8 points 7 days ago

You're the only one impressed about being a therapist lol

matthew0001 5 points6 points 11 days ago

Question 6* ftfy

ThatBritishPleb 9 points10 points 11 days ago

No, i mean the subreddits rule 6.

autisticperson123 2 points3 points 8 days ago

Therapists cannot diagnose someone, that's a psychiatrist's job.

ThatBritishPleb 5 points6 points 8 days ago

I never claimed i could diagnose though. Rule 6 assumes I'm not a therapist, but i am.

[deleted] 23 points24 points 12 days ago

therapy = paying for someone to care about you for an hour. it's prostitution for your feelings. normal people have friends to help with their feelings, which does not require money.

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Tatticadanit0 31 points32 points 10 days ago

You got to therapy to better understand how/what you feel and understand what to do by yourself, not to have someone that cares for you.

Being ugly or not doesn't change a thing.

HeitorVillaLobosDormant Chad 1 point2 points 10 days ago

I doubt it

ThatBritishPleb 9 points10 points 12 days ago

Interesting comparison

HeitorVillaLobosDormant Chad 1 point2 points 10 days ago

Do you think he's wrong?

novalueinvictimhoodhttp://goo.gl/2yvNyj 13 points14 points 12 days ago

If you think you can diagnose someone based off of reading text on a website, you should stop practicing your profession.

ThatBritishPleb 22 points23 points 12 days ago

I never said i could diagnose anyone from text on a website. I just said that i am a therapist.

novalueinvictimhoodhttp://goo.gl/2yvNyj 18 points19 points 12 days ago

You stated rule 6 was stupid. Rule 6 says not to diagnose.

ThatBritishPleb 8 points9 points 12 days ago

Show me where i have claimed to be able to diagnose people from their comments.

indarikilledhimselfuni makes me want to sui 3 points4 points 13 days ago

leech

keysongot 19 points20 points 13 days ago

We worship Saint Blackops2cel, Elliot Roger was an incel but he is not the Messiah, the prophecy says that one day Blackops2cel shall return to save us

mrcool581 1 point2 points 3 days ago

Who? Blackops2cel? I know who fuckface Roger-Doger is. Is the other guy worse,?

Der_Mann1 0 points1 point 8 days ago

Blackops2cel would rob 99% of us if he got a decent haircut. We are worshipping a chadlite.

BigGimmerz 38 points39 points 14 days ago

Out of curiosity, I've been lingering in the sub for a while, I'm fairly young, male and after going out tonight finally decided to comment on something,

After watching a friend, literally eat, everything I'd even tried to make contact with (female wise) starting feel a bit of resentment, I mean I actually make I effort, he throws on a polo, some jeans and they throw themselves at him?

What am I doing so wrong? Like what's wrong with me?

ShutupDumbassFace 25 points26 points 8 days ago

What the fuck is this supposed to mean speak English

BigGimmerz 16 points17 points 8 days ago

Username checks out I guess, but enough other people understood me. So I won’t be changing this just to appease you.

spicedmice 3 points4 points 5 days ago

Act like how you just acted act the end towards woman. Do you and do whatever tf you want and don’t change shit cause a chick wants you to. That’s all the advice I got

matthew0001 78 points79 points 11 days ago

Your friend ate all the women you've made contact with? Cannibalism is illegal, police involvement might stop him.

On a serious note it's not always the look but the attitude a person sinking into the back ground with slumped shoulders isn't as desired as a confident gun guy

ChrisBabyYeaNo goal = No positive emotion 25 points26 points 12 days ago

Youve given us literally no context or information to answer your question. "my friend was a Chad in Incel-clothes" is not enough info to get anyone to help you.

LordSalty 69 points70 points 13 days ago

Stop trying and lose your expectations. Go out and just think about having a good time, not getting laid.

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LordSalty 1 point2 points 7 days ago

Go wherever you want to meet people then. Bars are just a pretty common place where it’s more of a social norm to talk to strangers.

knajjd1114, 2/10 PSL - 5'2", ugliest incel, got lucky with alcohol 13 points14 points 12 days ago

"stop trying" when he WANTS to get laid? what are you talking about? are you stupid?

LordSalty 80 points81 points 11 days ago

Stop having the expectation like someone owes you sex. Stop going out with the goal. Just go out with the expectation to meet new people and have a good time. No, I’m not stupid.

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Der_Mann1 4 points5 points 8 days ago

So he sees his friend getting laid every time they go out but yet he somehow has to not expect it for himself? Also how is "not trying" ever going to get him laid? If you aren't trying to get laid you are volcel, which honestly is even more pathetic than incel.

Cjbleything 15 points16 points 11 days ago

That's how I met my wife

Crackcel 49 points50 points 14 days ago

He's attractive and you're not. Simple as that.

fagotonabikeNEETcel 120 points121 points 19 days ago

THIS THREAD SHOWS YOU THAT THE MAJORITY OF INCEL BROWSERS ARE PATHETIC BETA CUCKS.

STOP TRYING TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING TO LAZY RETARDS AND JUST TELL THEM TO FUCK OFF OR LURK MORE.

I know that the OP is satire, but you people are so fucking pathetic

Danjour 3 points4 points 11 days ago

obviously this is how meme magic works- everyone thinks they're in on it but everyone's deeply confused forever

ChrisBabyYeaNo goal = No positive emotion 2 points3 points 12 days ago

Yea burn em all!

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PM_ME_STRIPPERSWho needs depression pills when you got blackpills? 8 points9 points 20 days ago

Herro polite and curious normie, ( xD wink wink)

  1. An incel is defined as someone who is involuntarily celibate, someone who has not had sex or a relationship at all despite trying as much as possible.

  2. I always knew I was doomed for life being bullied and seen as subhuman by men and women, but i didnt swallow the blackpill until recently and now I know I am truly and utterly fucking doomed. I will be a virgin until i die.

  3. Elliot rodger is not worthy of my worship. He was a volcel and had at least average looks and could have easily slain but all he wanted was 10/10 women. He was part of the problem of why plenty of normies think that incels here are future murderers or rapists ,( we really arent, we are just depressed virgins) simply because he thought it was a good idea to kill other people simply because he couldnt get what he wanted ( which for him was easily accessible).

  4. I dont hate women as a whole, i hate how they act in regards to dating. Their sense of entitlement, their high standards and participation in hypergamy makes me rage.

  5. Yes i have tried approaching women, but mostly online dating. Most dont reply or the ones that do lose interest because they are too busy talking to chad.

  6. I only hate the normies on the internet who believe its ok to insult, mock and bully depressed virgins who have a different view on what the world is like ( the truth). I dont mind any normies who come here to contribute constructive thought - provoking comments tho. At least that is contributing something to the subreddit instead of constant drool.

  7. Chad is 100 % alpha male. 6 foot at least, Big muscles, masculine body ( not skinny, not fat), great jawline, positive canthal tilt, great nose ( not too big not too small), good chin etc etc Chad gets what he wants. Chad can say anything to a woman and it wont be seen as misogynistic because women will see it as a joke because hes attractive. Chad has sex as much as he wants and with whoever he wants.

  8. Stacey is a 8/10 to 10/10 in looks entitled bitch who thinks she is entitled to men. She thinks shes entitled to their money and whinges and whines when she doesnt get her own way. She will claim she is lonely or depressed on social media but 2 minutes later will get hundreds of messages from her friends or beta orbiter whiteknights telling her why shes so great. The main thing here is shes looking for attention.

  9. THerapy is cope.

  10. Some days i feel like killing myself, some days are bearable to live through.

  11. The only thing that would help my situation is plastic surgery. Although thanks to australia its too expensive and theres a long waiting list.

  12. Ive only got a few friends, most of them are chad and one of them is a normie.

  13. My relationship with my parents are fine

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blah blah blah

  1. Yes i went to a prostitute but it didnt go so well :(

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 6 points7 points 6 days ago

What happened with the prostitute? Was that the fat girl with the attitude one?

PM_ME_STRIPPERSWho needs depression pills when you got blackpills? 3 points4 points 6 days ago

i think u got me confused with someone else in regards to the prostitute situation.

Nah i just went one time to a brothel with a few drinks in me and couldnt get it up lol.

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 2 points3 points 6 days ago

Yeah I realized I did confuse the story. Will you go again?

PM_ME_STRIPPERSWho needs depression pills when you got blackpills? 2 points3 points 6 days ago

Maybe, but not for a while. Its quite pricey, and considering i live in australia where everything is fkn expensive its hard to have spare money for it.

kodoku2g e n e t i c l o t t e r y 33 points34 points 20 days ago

Fucking lol at the dudes answering the questions thinking this is a serious post. Fakecels don't know Sir Alia. What a shame.

PM_ME_STRIPPERSWho needs depression pills when you got blackpills? 73 points74 points 20 days ago

Im sure plenty of people here know its a satire post but whats wrong with answering it? At least some brigading normies might read some of them and might change their view on incels and see we really arent bad people, just subhumans that were dealt with a shit card. Obviously thats rare for a normie to change their view, but it still could happen.

TheBold 0 points1 point 8 days ago

You aren't a bad person yet you're a subhuman? Half your problem is right there.

hara-kiri-enthusiast 0 points1 point 4 days ago

Bad : opinion wise Subhuman: looks wise

Are you deliberately trying to miss the point?

blondehairdownthere 120 points121 points 20 days ago
How would you define an incel?

an involuntary celibate-- can't get laid, despite trying.

How old are you, and at what age did you discover you might be an incel?

mid 20s now, started on this path in middle school

Is it true that you worship Elliot Rodger?

No, and his problems are more associated with being mixed white / asian, that was the cause of his incelness. for more on that, check out the hapas sub r/hapas

Do you hate women?

no, i love women.

Have you tried approaching women?

yes, it gets realliy awekward when you run out of things to say. i even took dating classes.

Why do you hate "normies", and does that term refer to all people who aren't incel?

i just hate when they talk down to us, and say things like "just lift' etc. i DID lift. its not about that.

What is a Chad?

chad thundercock, he is the guy all the girls love. he's got a 10 inch dick, and he knows how to use it.

What is a Stacy?

She is a whore, she sleeps around with all the chads, totally clueless, very entitled.

Have you tried therapy?

No, its expensive. Ain't nobody got money for therapy these days.

Would you say you're suicidal?

Not currently.

What do YOU think would help improve your situation?

I'm not sure. I need to keep trying I suppose, I can't get holed up in my room. I do that too often.

Do you have friends?

Yes, i do.

What's your relationship with your parents

Its fine. Nothing to talk about though.

did you consider a prostitute? Yes.

BitcoinTrader45 39 points40 points 13 days ago

Unsolicited advice:

yes, it gets realliy awekward when you run out of things to say. i even took dating classes. Keep asking them questions about themselves. If the conversation stalls, ask another question. Repeat. Act interested. Better yet, ask questions you’re interested in knowing the answer to. If that’s not possible, move on.

Don’t dwell on failure, you don’t need a high average to be successful. You can do this.

TheOnlineWizard5'9 24y KHHV 22 points23 points 18 days ago

Wow, I might have wrote those answers myself, you and me are really in almost a similar situation and I totally share your thoughts.

ThrowawayIncelPost 11 points12 points 20 days ago

I am, what you guys would most likely call a Chad, a normie, etc. I came here, not to brag (thus the throwaway), but to tell you that not all people who are considered "Chads" are bad people and to provide an example of someone who is out here and does want to help. I have no idea how this will be received and I am not too familiar with this sub; I browse it when my friends see something that they consider "outlandish" or something like that. I don't find this stuff funny (most of it), I just find people who seem hurt, sad, and bitter about life. Let me tell you a little about myself: I am a 19-year-old college student. I went in to school for a degree in Computer Systems Engineering, but am now studying Computer Science as I find hardware to be more of a hobby, and software to be my passion (I've known I wanted to be a software engineer for quite some time). My overall GPA so far is around a 3.6. I was a gymnast for most of my life (12 years), and received some state and regional championship titles. I am apparently an "extremely" (my current girlfriend says, at least) attractive person, but I have a very low self-esteem and don't look in the mirror and see someone that women like. I have a very loving girlfriend who is the most caring person I have ever met (she's also the most attractive girl I have ever seen in my life). Before I met her, I had a girlfriend for 2 1/2 years who was not the healthiest. She joked about cheating, she openly expressed which men (in real life) that she found attractive and would do things that I am not all around comfortable with (there are a lot of details that I will not get into). Before that girl, I was a hopeless person who did not think any girl would ever like me. I had girlfriends before that, but they were mostly short and just flings. I had been rejected many times, but that's life. When I was going through the tail-end of the girl that I was with for 2 1/2 years, I was totally emotionally drained and depressed. I tried to give this girl everything I had, but received nothing in return. She took my virginity, but I wish she hadn't because sex was meaningless. It is not what people made it out to be. She made fun of me for it all the time, joking that I was not a good "performer" and blah blah blah. Just all-around suuuper unhealthy. We got into fights quite frequently, and it was a mess. Sex doesn't solve anything, is what I'm trying to get at. I know you all think differently, otherwise you wouldn't be on this sub. Something much more meaningful in life is finding someone you love, friends you love being around, and enjoying yourself (when you can; I find myself doing homework most of the time). I welcome all people to PM me or whatever with your world-views and whatnot and I will try to have meaningful conversations with you all. I do not look down on you, or think I am better than you. I am just a friendly normie with a low self-confidence.

That turned into much more of a rant/ not what I expected it to be, but so be it. It's out there. Do with it what you will.

Geenafalopezz 1 point2 points 5 days ago

Thank you for this

DeathByGunz 2 points3 points 21 days ago

Additional question for the incels: whats the furthest you have ever got with a girl?

randomusernamehere2 1 point2 points 21 days ago

What if someday you had a daughter? How would that effect your view of women?

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 2 points3 points 6 days ago

I will never reproduce, even if I could have sex because I don't want the horrible lifestyle and am antinatalist

Blirby 0 points1 point 21 days ago

I really hope that someday some small amount of genuine kindness and concern can pierce your heart and be known.

And I really, really hope that the right person will be there, able and willing to honestly give it to you.

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 1 point2 points 6 days ago

Why do you hope that?

Blirby 2 points3 points 6 days ago

My friend, because you deserve it. And so much more, you are in grave need of it.

At the risk of sounding patronizing, fake, or unnecessary. I couldn't know for certain if I am those things, or if I am them to you, but I hope you hear my heart. That's the truth. I think I hear yours, too.

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 2 points3 points 6 days ago

But we both know that you have no idea whether i deserve it or not

Blirby 7 points8 points 6 days ago

You seem to doubt it, and I'm sorry for that. I'm sorry that you bristle at my words, too. Someone must have been mean to you once, maybe for a very long time.

I would say to you, and earnestly, that "everyone deserves it," but then you might think that innate value is devalued by being shared by everyone across the world - which it isn't. Rather, humans have unlimited potential, and all humans deserve kindness, or at the very least, mercy.

But this is getting away from your life and into my personal opinions. Suffice it to say, I have found that a little faith goes a long, long way. In yourself and in others.

hobophobe42 4 points5 points 21 days ago

Do you guys actually believe that all women are shallow and only interested in what you have and not who you are?

hara-kiri-enthusiast 0 points1 point 4 days ago

Yes

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 1 point2 points 6 days ago

I do.

FoxyLeviathan 1 point2 points 21 days ago

1. How would you define an incel?

Involuntary celibate. Someone without the ultimate form of love 2 people can share.

2. How old are you, and at what age did you discover you might be an incel?

I discovered around 25 I am an incel.

3. Is it true that you worship Elliot Rodger?

No. I do not respect killers.

4. Do you hate women?

Not all women. There are few I still respect. My family mainly.

5. Have you tried approaching women?

Not in the last 4 years. Before then I would appoach and be ignored or laughed at.

6. Why do you hate "normies", and does that term refer to all people who aren't incel?

They think it is as simple as taking a shower, going to the gym, and just being confident. Sometimes that isn't enough. When you look like a train-wreck, confidence doesn't work.

7. What is a Chad?

Attractive alpha male who gets all the girls and fucks them and ditches them.

8. What is a Stacy?

Girls that bitch about wanting nice guys but refusing to ever look at all the people they reject just for not looking like Chad.

9. Have you tried therapy?

Yea it was part of the reason I found I am incel.

10. Would you say you're suicidal?

Not always. Sometimes and I have tried to kill myself before. Failed at that too. Go figure.

11. What do YOU think would help improve your situation?

I just need some friends.

12. Do you have friends?

Not anymore. Most friends I had left me in middle school and I haven't been able to make any since then.

13. What's your relationship with your pareblah blah blah

Family relationships are fine. I love my parents and they tolerate me.

Sweet_September 1 point2 points 4 days ago

I'll be your friend. I know it's not "in real life," but I will be there for you if you need someone to talk to or if you want someone to shoot the shit with. Everybody deserves some friends, and I could use some too.

idkwattodowithlife 92 points93 points 22 days ago

How would you define an incel A social outcast.

How old are you, and at what age did you discover you might be an incel I'm 23 y/o and discovered it around 18.

Is it true that you worship Elliot Rodger? No. Anyways being that he's sexually frustrated with his money he could of just simply hit-up Las Vegas and have a shit tonne of sex with hookers lol. I wish he knew that women don't love you who you are, but more, or so what you have and something to offer.

Do you hate women? No, its just a part of their nature, and biology to be that way. If you want them; you have to remove their rights, but however we live in a progressive society (were to meant to come to a meres end with patriachy/traditionalism; only the rich and the very poor could practice that not the middle class)

Have you tried approaching women? Not a lot, but I could read body languages pretty well.

Why do you hate "normies", and does that term refer to all people who aren't incel? I wouldn't say that hate normies; a lot of them don't see what we see. So I can't blame them. However, the little shitty things they do allows me to dip back into Misanthropy every now and then.

What is a Chad? A tall, good looking, charismatic, rich, popular, and muscular dude. Some are nice and some are mean.

What is a Stacy? A female Chad. I never gravitated towards those type of girls; I've always liked nerdy, hipster, hippy, and gamer girls (but learnt that overtime they were like their Stacy counterpart lol).

Have you tried therapy? Yes, once to deal with anger. However, people always thought that I was angry growing up; turns out most of the normies were bickering me. Its human nature; if someone bothers you then they'll get something hurled back at them.

Would you say you're suicidal? No, I have a big goal I want to achieve; which is to get a PhD in Maths. I still value the little and smaller things in life; gaming, anime, walking, lifting, and listening to music. However, I do think they're incels out there that have it worser than me, and I still hope the best for all of my other bretherins. I don't ever expect life to be 100% of happiness; we have to experience other emotions because it makes us human.

What do YOU think would help improve your situation? A part time job and more money.

Do you have friends? Nope, most friendships, and relationships are temporary anyways. I just embrace or utilize Nihilism to cope that feeling.

What's your relationship with your pareblah blah blah Meh its 50/50; some days are chaotic and some days are peaceful. Parents can't be your friends anyway; they're your parents.

flagshipcomplex 6 points7 points 12 days ago

Have you looked at the dharma, or ayahuasca? Thanks for sharing.

idkwattodowithlife 10 points11 points 12 days ago

Hey dude.

No, I haven't. I don't trust myself doing drugs because I know I have an addictive personality; I get hooked onto things pretty fast.

I just listen to vaporwave or lofi hip hop sometimes just to escape from reality and lose myself. Music is my high.

Anyways, have you tried dharma, or ayahuasca yourself? Perhaps, tell me your experience? If I ever decide to take steroids than I my reconsider giving those drugs a chance as well...

Sweet_September 1 point2 points 4 days ago

If it's any help, psychedelics helped change my life and lift me out of a deep depression. It's not a miracle cure, it goes hand in hand with other self love things, but there is certainly something to be said of the power they hold. I wouldn't take them lightly though, and a somewhat stable mindset is important. Anyway, hope you find what you're looking for. Always here to lend an ear if you want someone to talk/rant/vent to.

knajjd1114, 2/10 PSL - 5'2", ugliest incel, got lucky with alcohol 0 points1 point 4 days ago

jfl at that cope, psychedelics offer a cool high but that's all it is, a high. sleep and you'll feel exactly the same as you did yesterday.

jaiflicker 6 points7 points 11 days ago

The Dharma is basically the set of spiritual laws that govern human wellbeing and happiness. No one philosophy or religion has exclusive rights to it or articulates how to follow it perfectly, but many are helpful. Some more than others. Someone who can clearly articulate the Dharma is often thought to be more valuable than a particular tradition because there are plenty of people who call themselves whatever but don’t know what they’re talking about. Authentic teachers are invaluable. They can help apply the universal to the individual.

As for ayahuasca, one of the best articles I have seen on it was printed in National Geographic several years ago. For some reason it’s not on their website anymore but below is a direct link to the author’s own website where she reprints the story. Basically, she was a first time user and claims it cured her of her lifelong case of clinical depression.

http://www.kirasalak.com/Ayahuasca.html

My understanding is that ayahuasca is not only not addictive, but that it (and other similar substances like ibogane) can actually help cure people of addiction to other substances, like opiates.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/mg21929313-900-mind-altering-drug-could-offer-life-free-of-heroin/amp/

I’m not recommending you, or anyone reading this, do ayahuasca (or any drug). Engaging in some form of Dharma practice is much safer. Here is a Buddhist definition of it:

http://www.aboutdharma.org/what-is-dharma.php/

idkwattodowithlife 2 points3 points 10 days ago

Thanks dude :).

I've seen some youtube videos just before where they playing edm/trance and show translutive motion. Dharma takes me there than I'll definitely want to try it some day... However, I just don't want to get addicted to it. Lose myself wth DMT's and not accomplish my goals/dreams.

Thanks for your input anyways :).

aintnowallbih 3 points4 points 11 days ago

Not the poster but I've had my fair share of experiences with DMT, the active compound in ayahuasca. Let me start by saying there is nearly no risk of developing an addiction to that drug, it's not something you do for fun or to feel good. You do it for the experience, which can be overwhelming if you aren't mentally prepared. You don't leave a DMT trip immediately wanting more.... But it's an incredibly powerful tool to help you in any self development you may seek out. It's simultaneously introspective while also removing you from the world and your ego. Can be super liberating and life changing. But respect the plant!

idkwattodowithlife 2 points3 points 10 days ago

Thanks :).

Yes, I do want to lose myself sometimes. I feel like I don't always want to be here in this world or being attentive with my consciousness.

If I have money and ever enter myself in my darkest hours; yes it is something I could try to fiddle with...

flagshipcomplex 1 point2 points 11 days ago

Hey,

Thats me too, or was. I still have an addictive nature when it comes to food but I have removed all of the drugs I used to do, pretty much solely because of dharma and ayahuasca.

I was broken. Severe anxiety and moderate depression, Adhd, childhood trauma. But I never gave up on myself, just gamed by myself, listened to alot of edm and smoked alot.

Long sotry short at 23 I tried LSD and snapped cos I realised how inherently fucked I was. Went to court after assaulting an off duty cop and trying to steal their car. I just wanted to get home.

Anyhow, it was a long process but I avoided jail cos I spent all of my money and help from my family to pay for it, but it was a wake up call in more ways than one.

A few months after things settled down someone gave me a book on zen buddhism, the philosophy taight by the buddha on reality and how suffering exists but can be transcended. I started meditating on and off for a couple of years. It made sense and gave me an understanding that we are pretty fluid concepts and that the mind isn't fixed as I once believed. That is dharma, and since then I've really stepped up practice. It has helped me so much.

The ayahuasca I came to in 2012. I still had massive anger problems and moderate anxiety at this stage. But I had a good job on the mines and money to burn. I was up one night checking out some music and heard the lyrics reference ayahuasca as a vine of death. I got curious and started reading about it. It sounded crazy but I thought, fuck some of these people are saying it caused them massive changes. I started madly researching and found a place called the temple of the way of light and just booked two back to back retreats and a ticket to peru. That was 2012. I've been back twice more and this year I'm going again. That and the dharma philosophy and practice have literally made me a different person, but still me.

I dont think anyone can get addicted to ayahuasca. Its a massive massive trip, and in the thick of it takes you through your worst darkest understandings, and then shows you how they are incomplete parts of a bigger picture, or even illusions coming from your traumas. Its the hardest thing I've ever done but the best without question. I vomited up some terrible shit that had me wallowing in self hatred and pain and judgement and borderline sociopathic perspective of life. And at other times I felt cradled by the most unbelievable loving wisdom I've ever experienced. Often as a precursor to giving me strength to go back into the hell of my being. I have no idea still about the entities I met, like stuff I knew I wasn't just imagining, because the whole time I was still lucid, and how they would tweak stuff throughout my body and mind. I have done 30 ceremonies now and for about 20 of those I felt as if my whole biological psychological emotional even energetic being was operated on by something that knew what it was doing. It has made me question alot of stuff, but besides that point it has helped me be alot happier. It has made me realise how immensely strong I am. I`m back at uni, doing what I want to do, everyone I know has noticed changes but I care very little about what people think, more free from reacting to praise or blame.

So I share this with people I feel have some kind of view that I can relate to like you, because I know what its like to be fucked by life, maybe not in the same ways but alot is still shared.

Anyway its clear you`ve got alot of strength and even heart and basically this is just an offer that I would have wanted in the past because I had no idea it was that possible. So take what makes sense to you but if not thats fine its not for everyone thats for sure. However you travel, all the best.

idkwattodowithlife 0 points1 point 4 days ago

Thank you, flagshipcomplex! :)

I'm glad you come to your revelation in life through experimentation of Dharma and travelling. It seems in your parts of your life; you seemed a little dissatisfied; it seemed as if though you had something missing from your life.

Yeah, I totally resonate with you on life fucking people over. I feel like we're always feed with these lies that life is supposed to 100% filled with Happiness, but however thats not the case. Too many movies aren't doing good job; since they always showcase to many happy endings; which seems a little unrealistic at times; this makes people expects happiness at the end of their lives. Sometimes, I don't want to remove myself too much from reality, but every now, and then I do sometimes want to escape from it.

Yeah, keep doing your things man. Good to hear that you have went back to uni :).

expandingexperiences 52 points53 points 15 days ago

Oh geez wow. I hope by the time you get your PhD you come across more educated. I encourage you to take classes that talk about the socially constructed nature of reality. Or even a fucking biology class, because some of what you said is so factually incorrect it's painful. Congratulations on your goals and I hope you pursue them, you could really use the education!

idkwattodowithlife 2 points3 points 12 days ago

Oh wow... Well... Geez... Why, thank you? I guess.

Well, perhaps you live in a world of logic, reasoning, and rationale? Well? I don't. I've always felt that I'm more of a emotional and spiritual person than say "logical" etc.

If you're giving all of that jibber jabber than why don't you spot out some of things that you may have felt that I said wrong and then criticize from on there?

As for my grammar and spelling error; I've had a big history having trouble with reading, writing, and I've also been diagnosed with dyslexia (this further facilitated my learning difficulties over the years) since grade school... Yes, you could laugh all you want. I've already given up on women and kids (because I'm not good enough for em); so thats part of the reason as to why I want to pursue a PhD because I wouldn't have much things going on for my life... Also I'm passionate about learning and doing maths.

I'm guessing you're probably upset with what I said about "women (well we could into the depths r and k selection/breeding; if you want) and perhaps some of my talks with biology." Well, sorry this isn't a safe space for normies and women; I'll take it your new to hanging out in r/incels. Its a place where like-minded people (virgin guys) like myself could vent and all. You already have friends, possibly a partner, your work place, and other places where you could VENT (about your problems too). It seems like you want me to shun away from my place of zen (r/incels). Its always normies and femoids taking over places we created or had... e.g. Memes, forums, gaming, ..., etc.

Anyways, this maybe an ad hominem attack; well you've started it first anyways :). Judging by post history; you're not an incel; you're a normie and possibly a femoid (woman). As I saw some of your posts regarding with babybumps and mummy stuff; I'll take a stab-in-the-dark that you're probably probably middle-aged or atleast past your late 20s. On the contrary, there's hardly anything you could relate to us... Time and time again; were always told to improve ourselves by your same crowd. A lot of things are decided pre-preemptively (i.e. mate selection) and this is analogous to biology; theres a lot of things us incels can't change due to our genetics. Yet your crowd tends to bicker about our weaknesses and genetic defects...

Anyways, I've came across plentiful of smart woman in my course, and I do admire them for what their doing. However, having plentiful of bad experiences with woman kind of lead me to be here, and I could say the same for the majority of incels...

RodgersSecondAdventVolcel-[Incel Guardian] 14 points15 points 15 days ago

What did he say that was "factually incorrect", idiot?

idkwattodowithlife 2 points3 points 12 days ago

I've looked into expandingexperiences post history turns out its a "she" (femoid) and a normie.

I'm actually quite open to normies being on r/incels, but she is actually more fuel to the fire. A lot of us incels aren't too happy normies and femoids being here; at the first place. However, I'm pretty lenient to having them on here, but this messes it up...

She probably got upset when I spoke upon about female nature; perhaps she should explore and read r/incels before making her judgement. They're bazillions of posts repeating again and again that getting women is predicated on Looks/Money/Status. All of us incels know it from the back of our minds; it isn't supringsly at all. Also the research regarding with women (getting mates, getting them, divorces/break-ups) a lot of the times it supported by facts and statistics. Funnily, she's the one thats somehow "factual", and needs "evidence"; this wouldn't be the same when she will see all of those cruel statistics entailing the dark side of female nature. Of course, it has to fit to her narrative, and of course to her liking because it sounds "right" to her lol.

B45T4RD 0 points1 point 19 days ago

Normie, here. What exactly is the idea behind human biology that defines whether someone is or is not an involuntary celibate?

idkwattodowithlife 0 points1 point 4 days ago

Males that are born with genetic defects are likely to become incels.

Human biology dictates our successes and losses in life. Generally, in terms of how attractive you look (looks also elevates your status), and how intelligent/creative you are (this aspect reels in the money)

cheslet 0 points1 point 3 days ago

Not to undermine anything that was said, but as a (woman) Biologist, may I put in an explanation here?

Biology does play a big role in human sexuality. Full breasts symbolize milk production for offspring, full hips successful childbirth, a tall muscular build on men protection, etc.

But, women and men have two different mating strategies. If a woman is pregnant, that's a lifelong commitment for her, so it makes more evolutionary sense to be selective with mates and pick one that will stick by her to raise that child, and one that will also be able to feed and defend it.

For men, they don't HAVE to invest anything in their offspring, so it's more beneficial to have sex with as many women as possible.

So, you get some push back since men and women have opposite goals. Men will get frustrated with women because it's difficult to get one to partner with them. Women in turn will get frustrated with men for only seeking sex and not commitment. It creates frustrations on both sides.

But, this also creates a niche for outliers. Men who are more inclined to monogamy, while they might only have a few offspring, are more likely to reproduce at all where others who just want to fuck around could be very successful or fail completely. It's a big evolutionary gamble.

Now, you'd think the opposite would be true, but due to the already highly sexual nature of men, women are pretty much garunteed to reproduce anyway, therefore there's not as much of a selective pressure for hypersexual women. In fact, in times of famine and drought, more girls are born than boys for this very reason.

Of course, these are general trends and not rules, and ignores the more complex and often times more important sociological norms that dictate how people choose partners.

Both sexes have differences in mate selection strategy, but what I fail to comprehend is how so many view this to mean that women are a vile hive mind, but not men, when men have reproductive strategies that tend to be just as frustrating to the women as the women's are to the men's.

Also, wealth, while you'll always have "gold diggers" isn't nearly as important as those biological symbols earlier. In fact, in my personal experience, it's largely insignificant to most women. And lastly, how does this mean that women should have their rights stripped? Yes, perhaps my view of men is frustrating to you. But, your view of women is frustrating to me. As of right now, it's just something that both parties have to eventually work out, which kinda sucks, but surely it's better than out right stripping rights away from women?

all_is_vain_vanity 0 points1 point 2 days ago

I have no idea why you mentioned that you are female. But nevermind mind that.

The problem here isn't biological, it's sociological. We have contraceptive pills that make it possible for women to slut around and never get pregnant, and then settle for a nerdy guy who was studying and working while she was getting dicked. That happens so much nowadays it's sad, and we're starting to see the effects of that: men refusing to marry and women getting desperate. But that's still not that visible.

So the thing is, since we have this whole anti-slut-shaming culture today, women can be whores with no big consequences. And since women are picky like you said it, that creates an imbalance in the dating scene, for most women will go for the same top tier men and the middle/low tier ones will be alone.

So yeah, if anything the biological side of it that you explained only gives more reason for incels to say what we always say: it's over.

B45T4RD 0 points1 point 4 days ago

Then how is it that ugly people still get sex and live in happy relationships? Surely there must be something one can do personality-wise to be successful in these aspects of life despite a genetic disadvantage?

idkwattodowithlife 0 points1 point 4 days ago

Well, this then boils down to Money, and their status, or perhaps its their long term partner (and they perhaps lost their looks or became a fatter over the years). I do acknowledge that there are unattractive and one attractive couple walking among our streets, but usually that is pretty rare. However, that isn't 100 gurantee; if they'll stay together. Usually, if you don't fill in the holes for your attractive mate, or partner, then they'll look for elsewhere, and probably would cheat on you; this is part of reality.

A lot of people get cheated in relationships because usually they find people that maybe a little more good looking, has more money, and most often the person their cheating with has a higher status. I'm sorry dude, this soceity is predicated on superficialism, and materialism, money, status, and looks; no ones care if you're a good person. You could be immoral/unethical, but yet be good looking, and still have life going for you.

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Ajaxlancer 1 point2 points 21 days ago

Just curious, you said that you lift, so I'm curious as to the difference between you and a Chad. Is there a certain point where you become muscular enough to have a chaddish body, or is it also due to the other factors, like charisma and stuff?

idkwattodowithlife 0 points1 point 4 days ago

Yes, I lift. Well, I could be as well as muscular, and as strong as Chad or perhaps more Muscular/Stronger than he is, but however having a ugly face, and being 5'10" doesn't cut it much for women (plus I don't have money and a job).

A tall skinny slender Chad with a good looking face is more attractive than a ugly-faced gymbro.

Charisma stems from looks. You could be awkward as long as you're good looking; women will flock to you.

Ajaxlancer 0 points1 point 4 days ago

I get you. One more question. 5'10 seems to be a pretty good height imo. Like that's pretty tall, almost 6 feet. Have women straight up told you that you are too short? Again, just out of curiosity.

schmecutiveproducer 0 points1 point 21 days ago

Dang I’m sorry you are going through this. Sounds like a tough way to go about life.

idkwattodowithlife 0 points1 point 4 days ago

I rather live a life of truths than live a life of lies. Sadly, this society is predicated on Looks/Money/Status. I'm not a hateful person; I don't hate women (I in fact admire a lot of woman).

schmecutiveproducer 0 points1 point 4 days ago

Sounds like you’re just so caught up with the perception that it has taken control over you. “Society” isn’t what you see on TV.

brayanunchained 0 points1 point 22 days ago
  1. How would you define an incel?

Somebody physically unattractive that its invisible to women.

  1. How old are you, and at what age did you discover you might be an incel?

27, probably around 20-21

  1. Is it true that you worship Elliot Rodger?

No, he was an idiot

  1. Do you hate women?

No, they are doing what ever incel would be doing if we have the chance, fuckin attractive people.

  1. Have you tried approaching women?

Yeah, a couple of times, been rejected everytime

  1. Why do you hate "normies", and does that term refer to all people who aren't incel?

They judge what cant understand

  1. What is a Chad?

A guy who can fuck any girl he wants and has a 10/10 face, probably around 10%-30% of men, depending on the country

  1. What is a Stacy?

Any girl who has a promiscuous life

  1. Have you tried therapy?

Yeah, currently on it, next appointment is sept 30

  1. Would you say you're suicidal?

Not really but I have thought on killing myself a couple of times in the past.

  1. What do YOU think would help improve your situation?

Plastic surgery

  1. Do you have friends?

No, but a few acquaintances

What's your relationship with your parents?

Love them and they love me back

Have you consider a prostitute?

Yes, this Christmas i have planned on banging an escort, they are relatively cheap and hot in my country, planning on making my fantasy come true, a litte face fuckin and anal with two blondes would be amazing also cum swallowing, basically recreate a video from amateurallure.com, I don't give a fuck anymore tbh.

Sorry for the format I'm on mobile

TrustRoss 0 points1 point 23 days ago

Papa bless OP, I'm curious about this as well, would like to ask some questions of my own and now I see that most of the community is surprisingly open to curiosity

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 0 points1 point 6 days ago

Aw

Pissedoffnorman 0 points1 point 23 days ago

Normie here - but fully blackpilled hope im welcome.

commander_zoidberggas chambers for beta males 81 points82 points 24 days ago
  1. A worthless inferior male who can't get a woman.

  2. I'm 29 I realised I was defective at 14. Although it wasn't till I was 17 that I realised. I was still in "cope" to an extent until 23.

  3. He was pathetic. He intended to slaughter a sorority house but was to stupid to take a crowbar or shotgun to breach with. Fucking moans for pages about wanting a hot blonde goddess in his manifesto even though he was an Asian manlet.

  4. For the most part, yes. Women are evil and stupid.

  5. Yes. Tried all sorts. Closest in more than 10 years? Netflix and pizza at a girls house. 4/10 5'6'' chubby tom boy type. Wouldn't even let me put my arm around her. Prefers useless unemployed hipster nu male who causes her endless problems. Fucking slag.

  6. No. There are chads and normies. Tyrones. Jamaals. Maybe weirdos as well. Like Paedos and stuff. Normies are some of the worst because they come in here with stupid useless platitudes and advicesn that they know is disingenuous. They primarily want to virtue signal and preserve the just world fallacy. Often normies of our generation are hipster phaggots, nu males, low T weaklings. Male feminists. etc.

  7. He is an alpha male. The top 20% or so of males.

  8. Typical fucking whore who rides the cock carousel. Lacks any self awareness. Does nothing but hunt for cock on her smart phone and uses pathetic beta males for her own ends.

  9. Therapy is for normies - people who don't have problems but its trendy to have mental illness or who feign mental illness to get out of work. etc. Women who need therapy because they suck chads cock all the time but he won't commit. Blah, blah, blah. Therapy can't help incels who are fundamentally worthless deformed creatures who never had the chance to develop properly in adolescence and are hated just for existing.

  10. Not particularly.

  11. Bringing back decent patriarchal society. Arranged marriages. Shaming of sluts and single mothers. No more no fault divorce. More responsibility at younger ages for young men.

  12. A few friends and acquaintances. Most people my age are busy with family. Most of what friends i had from school are hopeless piss heads or druggies.

  13. Its ok I guess. I'm a living humiliation to them though.

  14. Yes. It is the thing that keeps me sane. Its too expensive to do more than once or twice a year.

expandingexperiences 49 points50 points 15 days ago

😂😂😂

commander_zoidberggas chambers for beta males 7 points8 points 14 days ago

Oh look a norman. Kindly fuck off.

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Yummyboogers 8 points9 points 15 days ago

Don't bother....they just whine and call you a beta, a normie, a cuck, etc.

commander_zoidberggas chambers for beta males 6 points7 points 15 days ago

Blah blah blah. Terrible personality because of what you post on reddit. That's why you're single. Therefore just world fallacy.

Funny. I can rattle off endless cases where women give their own children willingly to paedophiles, helped men they were involve with rape and kill their own sister. Where violent serial killers have over 40 children by women who consented but just because someone posts on reddit and calls women out for their fucking disgusting degeneracy. That's the reason? It has nothing to do with the fact that women are worthless disgusting whores who will do anything for alpha cock?

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[deleted] 1 point2 points 15 days ago

Thing is - even the fat, ugly, deformed, aspie women can get whatever cock she wants. Incel men are incapable of getting laid and reproducing - because women in this day and age think that if you're a little bit different, not the right race, not tall enough, a little balding etc. have the keys to weed you out and are perfectly fine with treating you like shit in day-to-day matters. You wouldn't know what it's like unless you've lived in those shoes.

And you idiot, most men you are TALKING ABOUT DOING HORRIBLE AWFUL THINGS are the ones that women chase.

fruedianslip 0 points1 point 20 days ago

What is nu male and a low T?

nirvahnah 1 point2 points 21 days ago

So, and this is coming from a normie I guess(?), if a girl just decided to fuck you because she’s promiscuous, would you still call her a slut? Would you deny her? I understand the frustrations, I was a super ugly duckling and didn’t get laid until I was 18, but why the hate just cause a girl fucks a lot?

I know I’d fuck all the time if I could. I assume the same for you? No?

TeoLolstoy 1 point2 points 22 days ago

I also have some questions, if I may:

  • You wrote that you're a 'worthless inferior male'. It seems to me that there's a dissonance between what you say about yourself and how you write about others. For instance you have a lot of disdain for, well, basically anyone. You said women are stupid and evil. How does that go together? And: what kind of people are not worthless in your opinion?

  • What do you say about apparently very successful and intelligent women, of whom there are many, ranging from philosophers like Elizabeth Anscombe to entrepreneurs like Sheryl Sandberg or scientists like Marie Curie? Surely many of those are neither evil nor stupid?

  • According to you, a Stacy rides the cock carousel. I assume you think sleeping around is morally questionable. Does that also count for men? Are men who sleep around equally questionable in your opinion? If not, why?

  • There are many citeable studies that would absolutely object to all of your statements. I don't think it's trendy at all to have a mental illness, it's still very much taboo. I don't know anyone flaunting their illness around. And even if they were, that might be a coping strategy for people with depression, for instance. How did you form your opinion on therapy? And why do you object to it so vehemently?

  • Regarding 11: Why? What would give you the right to decide the fate of half of earth's population?

Master_of_melancholyKHHV 2/10 assburgercel, give rope 28 points29 points 24 days ago
  1. Anyone who, due to factors out of their control, is incapable of being accepted into a loving relationship.
  2. 33, but blackpilled since 20
  3. I will admit his manifesto was an interesting read. I can relate to nearly all of his childhood experiences up to the point where he moves to Santa Barbara to attend uni. Then the tone of his manifesto changes from innocent aspie to batshit serial killer.
  4. I'm an equal opportunity hater. I despise all of humanity, and don't believe in singling out any particular group. All humans are slightly evolved primates acting on the same basal instincts as wild apes, but with big enough brains to pretend otherwise.
  5. Yes, enough that their lemon face/turns head/walks away routine is permanently etched into my consciousness.
  6. Success with woman is not even a factor. A typical normie is an oblivious, egotistical, and often hypocritical individual who conforms to social norms and holds a rose-tinted view of life. Normies are easily identified by their hostile reaction to any uncomfortable facts that threaten their just world view, and by their tendency to compensate for their lack of empathy by regurgitating empty platitudes like automatons. In this way, they are like carbon copies of each other.
  7. A man with at least 8/10 physical features, for whom picking up girls is second nature.
  8. A woman who is at least average in status and looks, but attractiveness can vary. The only constant is they won't be caught dead dating a sub-8 man.
  9. Only every year of my life since age 12. How much it helped, I'll let you be the judge.
  10. Not actively suicidal, but I see it as my eventual fate.
  11. A face that is not sub-human, and a neurotypical, non-assburger brain. But since that's not possible, sufficient funds to LDAR.
  12. Plenty, unless you mean actual humans. Sigh..
  13. They tolerate me, but probably regret not swallowing the damned pill

Lamb-and-Lamia 1 point2 points 13 days ago

A good bit of this is definitely true. Like objectively. I have always said there is something undeniably true about the musings of a depressed person

HeitorVillaLobosDormant Chad 7 points8 points 24 days ago

This place stinks of normies

ChildofAbraham 0 points1 point 24 days ago

All of the answerers in this sub should read the book 'The Alexander Technique' by Pedro de Alcantara.

It's only 125 pages - take a few hours and consider changing your life. It's actually very simple with directed effort and a sense of responsibility.

learn to use your self properly, and you will be in much better places.

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 0 points1 point 6 days ago

We really shouldn't.

gotta_let_it_happen 0 points1 point 24 days ago

This is unrelated but I started reading Dune a couple weeks ago and today I realised where your username comes from.

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 1 point2 points 6 days ago

Did it make you feel great about yourself?

colmattersonRespectful visitor 35 points36 points 25 days ago

This is basically me, and even though it reinforces the trope you are making here, I am sorry if my method is unappreciated. But what I am not sorry for is trying hard to be inoffensive. I am not sorry for wanting to understand Incel-dom. I am not sorry for wanting to help. I do think if more people took the time to try, that we would all be better off. If it seems like I am patronizing in my approach, I am sorry for that. I recognize that there is no pleasing everyone, so I am taking the most careful approach that I can in order to try to speak to everyone. Not all appreciate that. That's fine. There is no avoiding that. You can make fun of it, and of me, but if you or anyone else here wants to tell me WHY they think what I am doing is wrong or bad, or that my approach IS inadvertently offensive, please do so. OP, you clearly don't respect this kind of approach, yet you offer no alternative. To use another apparent "stereotype", let's start a real dialogue here.

Edit: I see the post that you must surely be referencing with yours. And no, I do not think I am like him. I can't see what he wrote, but based on the quotes from the comments, he does not seem interested in actually helping anybody here. He just included a barrage of questions that does treat the members here like research specimens. Frankly, that's a disgusting approach. So I don't think I'm like him, but I am trying to approach this subreddit and the member's here with cautious empathy. I do not think there is anything wrong with that.

contravariant_ 0 points1 point 23 days ago

So I'm not the only one who read this and thought "wow, this is totally me". I, also, like to go to different communities and try to learn why they believe what they believe directly from them, rather than look at caricatures made by their enemies. I think you're great for doing so and realizing that in the modern atomized society, you have to step outside your bubble to see the reality of other ideologies, and you can't just rely on what your side tells you about them - that will probably be just a distorted image of the worst of the worst of them. The rationalist way is to investigate directly and hear from all sides rather than hear from one side and believe hearsay about another.

As for those against intergroup discussion, take a look at this post (from a series arguing against modern feminism). The connection should be clear - if you put a bingo square for "Hi, I'm not one of you, but I'd like to learn more about what you believe", you're patching the last hole in your echo-chamber bubble, the one that was there by design, so that we have some polite, rational intergroup discussion, and so that others could learn the truth about you directly, rather than the alternative. What's the alternative? Currently, the best alternative is that they go to someplace like [... communities that AutoMod doesn't like me even linking to ...] , who will be more than happy to educate them about "what monsters incels are". I don't think any rational person would want a society where the only way to learn about a group is to talk to their enemies.

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 29 points30 points 24 days ago

Here, this is for you. I wish more people were so kind and willing to help incels to become more like them. I can see you're a great person because you took effort to explain to me that you are.

Blirby 0 points1 point 21 days ago

is he telling you he is a good person or is he explaining to you his attempts to be considerate of you, while giving you the option of finding it inconsiderate?

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 0 points1 point 6 days ago

The former with a fake unnecessary patronizing charade of the latter.

fishhookurethra 10 points11 points 24 days ago

Can one person politely spit in the face of another? No, and so can't you politely intrude into this sub.

I do not want a dialogue with you and you know this. Your presence is unwanted and this is one of very few places where we can be free of bullies like you. No matter how many times tou use the word please, you are still forcing yourself somewhere that you aren't welcome.

Read our posts and consider our situation if you would like to understand. Do not lower the quality of this place by asking a question that has been asked hundreds of times.

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BasedTruecel2Deformed 1/10 circus freak 22 points23 points 25 days ago

Satire more like.

GoofyLooking 16 points17 points 25 days ago

i'm what you could call a 5 or maybe a weak 6, average or normie guy if you prefer that term, i've come to the conclusion that the gap between unattractive and average guys is almost unexistant. I'm a virgin with 41 y/o, almost 42, so i can tell you guys that many normans are in the same boat as you and feel like shit many times.

As for the OP it's obvious he is joking with all these stupid questions.

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GoofyLooking 5 points6 points 24 days ago

i have women interested but not the kind that i want to be with and i'm certain that i am at least average but of course its not enough.

Yummyboogers 0 points1 point 15 days ago

So fuck a fatty

ForceFetusKingUnoriginal Trash 19 points20 points 23 days ago

Keep tellin yourself that

Beltrev_Montorkekcel -4 points-3 points 25 days ago

out!

Yummyboogers 2 points3 points 14 days ago

Awww , triggered?

Beltrev_Montorkekcel 0 points1 point 14 days ago

you are yes

Yummyboogers 1 point2 points 14 days ago

Awww , triggered?

Yummyboogers 1 point2 points 14 days ago

Awww , triggered?

Yummyboogers 1 point2 points 14 days ago

Awww , triggered?

ButteFartte 38 points39 points 24 days ago

Don't get triggered man

THEGrammarNatzi 61 points62 points 26 days ago

Are there photos of typical real-world incels? Most of the photos google shows look like most of my friends in high school, none of whom consider themselves incels. I'm just concerned and would like to understand. I don't like the idea that the subscribers here think no one understands or gives a shit, not necessarily about the lack of sex but not having the opportunity to connect with someone in that way. But I also fail to see how one's looks can completely cut them off from that experience.

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knajjd1114, 2/10 PSL - 5'2", ugliest incel, got lucky with alcohol 0 points1 point 12 days ago

yeah lol you know more about an incel's life than the incel himself hurr durr

u/azavii hostile cunt, thx

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knajjd1114, 2/10 PSL - 5'2", ugliest incel, got lucky with alcohol 0 points1 point 12 days ago

yeah lol you know more about an incel's life than the incel himself hurr durr

u/azavii "6) No online diagnosing". also lazy and insulting, thx

THEGrammarNatzi 0 points1 point 12 days ago

Speaking hypothetically in response to the above. I don't claim to know shit, kiddo

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serventofgaben 35 points36 points 25 days ago

we don't know if he's actually an incel but this guy looks like an example:http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/16/1397676782-521904-502969179784958-1198992397-n.jpg

kingin00 19 points20 points 26 days ago
  1. In my case, someone who is so physically repulsive that intimate lives are nonexistent.
  2. 21. I am not an incel anymore, but I can empathize and understand their perspective. Women used to gravitate towards me with no effort until the age of 15 when I developed severe acne. I experienced the polarity and it was living hell until 19.
  3. Lol such a predictable question. No he was weak. He was in such a better position in life than I was around that time. I.e. rich family, clear skin.
  4. No. Ugly and smart girls give me hope. But I am aware many bimbos are just superficial, vacuous people who are subordinate in many ways besides aesthetics.
  5. Yes. When I had acne, all were very confrontational, some would comment or stare. Trying to make it obvious they were uncomfortable and repulsed.
  6. You are misconstruing the use of this word. It is not exclusive to the incel group. A synonymous term is "clones" i.e. people who are very basic minded. An example would be someone who is as conscious as my dog. I usually use that term for somebody that is heavily brainwashed by either the government or religious facades. I.e. somebody who is culturally conditioned, also someone who does so much externally that they never dig deep and analyze life, philosophy/spirituality, I mean everything really the rabbit hole is deeper than you think.
  7. My interpretation of a chad is an aesthetically superior male. Usually who has no understanding of others plights and is generally less conscious when it comes to everything besides socializing.
  8. I don't know what a Stacy is. I would assume it's a basic mom type lady in the 6-7 range. You're on reddit though you can probably look it up and find a thread.
  9. Yes. My therapist was a bimbo AND a feminist and she downplayed my experiences, lied and manipulated me. Told me I was a little boy scared of girls. Meanwhile she and the majority of women I encountered, complain about one zit if anything- they would've killed themselves a long time ago if they were in my shoes. Oh yeah she also told me I think like a rapist. While I was a TEEN, just expressing my sexual attraction to women. I was "objectifying" them apparently.
  10. I was but something amazing happened that makes me know great men are forged in fire and now I am completely on another level, I have risen above all those around me already.
  11. Sex.
  12. Yeah making friends was never a problem, I was super sociable before acne, and I have a lot more to offer.
  13. They didn't understand. So I wrecked their life view and told them how they were living a lie i.e. invalidated their religion.
  14. Yes. I actually got a high level one- A1 blond probably ~22 with big tits. The program cost nearly 12K and I didn't have to pay a cent because I used my situation as leverage and manipulated my scumbag parents. It was vengeful, but I got my karma for that too. I had a very turbulent relationship literally right after that. Just a few hints from my crazy life.

ZebediahKillgraveSpyelbowcel 63 points64 points 26 days ago

Imagine being retarded enough to actually take the OP seriously and answer everything, kek.

painwizard 16 points17 points 26 days ago

braincels

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But that is one man and one woman. Surely not a common circumstance.

Nautica1983 42 points43 points 26 days ago
  1. Involuntary celibate. Tried to get a girlfriend or laid but can't due to factors outside of his control.

  2. 24, realized it at 17.

  3. Only the fucking retards on here worship or like Elliot Rodgers. Infact I'm sure most people on here that do are joking.

  4. No

  5. Yes

  6. No. Normies are people who have girlfriends and friends.

  7. Very Facially aesthetic guy 8+/10 on the looks scale and a good physique.

  8. Basically same as Chad, but the female version.

  9. Don't need it, there's nothing mentally wrong with me. That question actually offends me.

  10. No

  11. Being Goodlooking would get me out this situation.

  12. Yes

  13. Good

  14. I might eventually.

double-victory 88 points89 points 25 days ago

You don't need to have something mentally wrong with you to benefit from therapy, the same way you don't need to have something wrong with your teeth to benefit from dentistry

Beltrev_Montorkekcel 6 points7 points 25 days ago

therapy does nothing. have to change environment and reality to fix mental issues which are caused by them.

DrSpaceman--purple pilled KHV 39 points40 points 25 days ago

Therapy can help, I know incels think psychiatry is a sham but I've benefited from CBT. Won't recommend many forms of therapy though as they need further study.

ThrowtheincelawayAnti-incel users deserve cancer 2 points3 points 26 days ago

Fuk

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8/10.

Minus 2 for not virtue signaling.

CelSword 29 points30 points 27 days ago
  1. How would you define an incel?

a male over the age of 25 that has tried to have sex and has been unsuccessful. Turning down any type of sex automatically makes you not an incel

  1. How old are you, and at what age did you discover you might be an incel?

30, i was around 23 when i realized it might happen

. Is it true that you worship Elliot Rodger?

no clue who that is

Do you hate women?

no

. Have you tried approaching women?

yes

Why do you hate "normies", and does that term refer to all people who aren't incel?

because they dont get it, and some normies are still virgins. inceldom has nothing to do with being a normie or not

What is a Chad?

genetically gifted male that needs to put zero effort into having sex

What is a Stacy?

genetically gifted female that can pick and choose who she wants to have sex with (ussually only sleeps with chads where as chads will sleep with anyone)

. Have you tried therapy?

for what

. Would you say you're suicidal?

no

. What do YOU think would help improve your situation?

plastic surgery

. Do you have friends?

yes

. What's your relationship with your pareblah blah blah

good

blah 60. Did you consider a prostitute?

no

peacesweater 15 points16 points 25 days ago

Disclaimer, I am a normie. Thank you for answering OP, and I hope they were not being trolls. I just had a question, *but edited to erase it because others have answered it below (but still wanted to say thanks to the sub for posting this thread).

MoeAssadCx 48 points49 points 27 days ago

How do the normies not realise this is bait?

[deleted] 16 points17 points 26 days ago

normies not realise

First clue is right here.

rockisdead121 48 points49 points 27 days ago

Fakecels think this is an actual interview

cookiescat13Hating women is cope 17 points18 points 26 days ago

Seriously lmao its pathetic. They jump at the first opportunity to wail out their shitty story that no one gives a shit about. All humans are garbage.

retarded_dumbshitle username related xdd 78 points79 points 26 days ago

on that note, why do you think your opinion matters enough to post it here? you jump at the first opportinuty to wail out how better you are than the rest of you.

[deleted] 14 points15 points 26 days ago

I'm the smelliest piece of garbage in the trash can, okay?

YouNeededCorrection 6 points7 points 25 days ago
  • most smelly. Smellcel?

mflmani 1 point2 points 26 days ago

🦀

grayiblis 171 points172 points 27 days ago

How would you define an incel?:

A straight male unable to form a sexual and romantic connection with a female.

How old are you, and at what age did you discover you might be an incel?:

I'd rather not say my age, with the exception that I'm still young and can beget a child. I discovered I was incel about 5-7 years ago.

Is it true that you worship Elliot Rodger?:

Absolutely NOT. I understand why he did what he did, but his actions were still wrong.

Do you hate women?:

Not hate, but rather more of a resentment.

Have you tried approaching women?:

Yes. I wouldn't be posting here if I was successful. Due to possibly being on the autism spectrum, coupled with a series of embarrassing and occasionally violent events during my childhood, I'm wayyyy too awkward, shy and broken to learn "game" and PUA tactics.

Why do you hate "normies", and does that term refer to all people who aren't incel?

(i) Because Normies fail to understand guys like us and (ii) not necessarily.

What is a Chad?:

A very good looking, athletic guy who can get girlfriends with little effort, and is a living proof that PUA/Game is bullshit. Often has a lot of friends and enjoys playing and watching sports.

What is a Stacy?

A woman in her prime, usually very attractive, and a social media attention whore. Tends to make fun of, look down on, fear and despise incels. In a Stacy's eyes, any man under 6'0" and/or unattractive is considered subhuman.

Have you tried therapy?:

Yes. Twice. It didn't go far. Therapists are very blue pill.

Would you say you're suicidal?:

Yes. My suicidal thoughts are cyclical, and during the past few weeks it hasn't been too bad. Often suicidal thoughts are overpowering.

What do YOU think would help improve your situation?:

In moral terms, society shifting back to about 60-70 years. Or a pill that makes me grow taller. Or tweak my genetics so I can build muscle faster and burn fat faster (I DO work out, mind you, and I refuse to try steroids, it's not worth the ball shrinkage).

Do you have friends?

I have acquaintances that come and go. I don't know if they're aware of my situation. The fact that they never bring up the topic of dating, sex and relationships with me hints that they do. Oddly, friends that become close usually end up asking me for money; not once or twice, but repeatedly.

What's your relationship with your parents:

I'm not close with my Dad at all. My Mom was always very foul-mouthed, unpredictable and tended to side with my sister. Both were physically and verbally abusive. Now, as an adult, my relationship with them is only cordial. Fun fact: There was (and still is) very little hugging.

Did you consider a prostitute?:

Yes, but it's not legal in my state. There is a way to hire prostitutes, but I'm way too paranoid and edgy to risk getting caught by an undercover cop.

twinkie45 0 points1 point 7 days ago

I really enjoyed your answers and it’s clear you really have thought about them. I hope you don’t mind if I ask another few question. Do you think the negative relationship with your mom and sister has contributed to your overall feelings towards women. One of the things I’ve noticed as I lurked was a shocking level of hate towards women. Or users labeling all women as sluts and cunts. I can’t help but think (and may be totally off base) that those feelings contribute greatly to the challenge some men have with women. Do you have to work to hide your dislike and resentment when approaching women?

eu4bot 0 points1 point 12 days ago

Have you ever really, actually seen a Chad and a Stacy? You don't have to tell me, because I know the answer already, but I just want you to think.

refusewool 0 points1 point 14 days ago

The reason you don't gain muscle is not genetic. You either don't lift hard enough or you don't eat enough. This is fact. Try Stronglifts 5x5 and count your calories with Myfitnesspal. Unless you prefer to be an incel...

Serendipitee 141 points142 points 26 days ago

I didn't expect any honest/earnest answers but was curious what was in this thread as I only just stumbled on this sub tonight and find it oddly interesting, in a morbid curiosity sort of way. That's probably because I have no life, but I digress. Thanks for the actual insight.

First, don't let the possibility of autism make you think you won't ever have a relationship. I'm a mildly autistic female and, though I realize the same rules don't apply to women (and I admit this) I've had relationships with autistic men - it does happen. My oldest daughter and her boyfriend are also both on the spectrum, and have a wonderful relationship. I've also seen autistic guys get taken advantage of - generally for money - and find it disgusting. It does happen, but that doesn't mean its your fate.

Also, being tall isn't everything. I married 2 men (yes, I'm a terrible whore in incel terms, I'm sure, but it's not like I went into any marriage intending it to fail... they just do... repeatedly) that were shorter than me. It's not that big of a deal to any woman you'd probably want to be with anyway, since I assume you would rather avoid superficial bitches. Not being perfectly toned makes men more cuddly - muscle is hard and makes a shitty pillow. Not every woman wants abs of steel. In short (no pun intended?) don't be too hard on yourself for all the crap people say is supposedly important in this sub. It's mostly only important to people that aren't.

Yes, there are some people that are flat out deformed (usually from a severe medical issues), and frankly not everybody is attracted to everybody else - no matter how good their personality is - and that's hard to get around even if you aren't an overly superficial person, but being a little shorter and not terribly toned isn't going to preclude you from sexual relationships on their own. Nor does being on the spectrum. It can make things more challenging, but not impossible.

Second, since you appear to actually be open to talking about things, maybe you could answer a couple of questions I've gathered while lurking here for... oh, about 2hrs. 1. Ok, I give, what's a roastie? I can't quite nail it down from the contexts I've seen it used in. 2. I've never heard of blue pill before, only red pill (and that only on reddit) - I can guess it's simply the female version of the redpill (duh) but I assume there's more to it? I could google it but I'd rather hear an explanation from somebody that's speaking candidly and openly like yourself vs a lot of sarcastic or satirist nonsense. Please and thank you.

grayiblis 46 points47 points 25 days ago

Thank you for the advice and insight. You brought a more positive vibe in this sub. This is frankly a pretty dark forum, and I appreciate the thoughtful answer, and it's great to hear from someone familiar with autism.

To answer your questions first: 1) I don't know what a roastie is, to be honest 2) blue pill and red pill is a term that originates from The Matrix. When Neo takes the red pill, the truth is revealed. If he decided to take the blue pill, he would've continued to live life the way it was, and never would have woken up. When a person is "blue pill", it means they either do not understand or turn a blind eye to the darker aspects of human nature (e.g. - female hypergamy, IQ being a genetic trait, or that hard work does not guarantee success). When a person is "red pill", they understand human nature and accept the unpleasant parts of it. Blue pill and Red pill is a term also commonly used in the Men's Rights Activist forums.

Now, with all due respect, I disagree with a couple of things you wrote (though I wish you were right, I sincerely do). Height -- It may not be an issue for YOU, but it certainly is an issue for 9/10 women. Physique -- I also disagree that 'not every woman wants abs of steel'. It certainly does not seem that way at all, from the conversations I gather. Let me be very clear, though: I am not expecting to find a woman with model looks. I am perfectly OK with imperfections. But frankly, women seem less forgiving than men.

...then again, I live in South Florida, a sexually competitive market, so I could be suffering from a type of confirmation bias.

Northerland 4 points5 points 7 days ago

I think the problem you run into is that you try 3-4 girls maybe not that many and you draw a conclusion about the whole gender. I'm not good looking or have physique and I'm 5'9". I still get 10's it truly is about the trial and error. What you did wrong with one girl you improve upon to the next. You just keep driving on. There's a right girl for everyone that you could see yourself marrying but there's also a lot of girls that you can get that will be a short relationship but still fun and fucky. If you want me to help you with game or problems with women I'd be glad. Because frankly this incel stuff really isn't accurate or good for the mind since you just get in a feed back loop from other incels.

Serendipitee 48 points49 points 25 days ago

Thanks for the info. I'm familiar with The Matrix but since I only saw "blue pill" being used in the context of females it threw me off. I've only seen the red pill term used in the PUA sub(s), which I don't think are particularly enlightened, sort of defeating the connotation.

I think you may be right about where you living being a bad example of commonly desired physique. There's a reason "dad bod" is a thing - lots of women are happily married to men that aren't terribly toned. It's also an age thing. Younger women seem a lot more obsessed with it. I don't think we "lower" our standards as we age, but what's desirable can definitely change over the years (thankfully especially for those of us that aren't 10s to begin with - age generally doesn't help any). You may find a lot more tolerance once you hit a different age group for your potential dating pool (or try another geographical area - or both).

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not_my_name_at_all 24 points25 points 26 days ago

thanks for sharing with us. i appreciate how earnestly you approached this.

i'm so sorry about the abuse that was enacted upon you by your mother and sister. it can really color the way you relate to others for the rest of your life.

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knajjd1114, 2/10 PSL - 5'2", ugliest incel, got lucky with alcohol 0 points1 point 12 days ago

Sebbean 17 points18 points 26 days ago

It is? I didn't see the /s anywhere

lonelyreee10 years of self improvement = 25 khhv with pectus carinatum👱🔫 9 points10 points 25 days ago

Don't need the /s , just basic reading comprehension.

Sebbean 5 points6 points 25 days ago

Which part?

esr360 1 point2 points 12 days ago

Normal people wouldn't be this dense to write something so obviously belittling and condescending. Just re-read it...does it not obviously scream "satire" to you?

Serendipitee 38 points39 points 26 days ago

Sadly they seem to be the most decent folks I've seen in this sub so far.

not_my_name_at_all 64 points65 points 26 days ago

well, even if the post was sarcasm, i appreciate those who have replied in earnest and the insights they've been willing to share here.

lamefggt 68 points69 points 27 days ago
  1. Unable to find companionship from people of the sex you're attracted to. Being straight and having gay people express interest (or viceversa) doesn't count.

  2. I'm 29, still a virgin. Suspected around 17, became clear after 20.

  3. Hell no, WTF man !? Regardless of his own personal issues, the man was a murderer.

  4. No I don't hate women. The fact that women are more free today than they were 50 years ago is generally a good thing. The only thing to hate here is that men are still expected to bear the burden and duty of being other people's moral guardians.

  5. In general, yes, but not anymore since 2013.

  6. I don't hate "normies". I hate their lack of empathy for people like us.

  7. Chad is difficult to narrow down. Has to be good looking, not creepy, confident and in decent shape. Must exhibit some facet or kind of power (i.e.: is really good at something, but not limited to that). Must have few to no readily apparent flaws.

  8. Pretty easy to define. A Stacy generally is a very attractive woman that goes through many abusive (not necessarily violent) relationships and always comes out none the wiser. She then complains there are "no good guys left to marry". Often marries "down" (i.e.: a less desirable man) as there are not enough Chads and divorces him after a while.

  9. Yup, huge money and time sink. Also needed 2 months to wean off the Rx meds and and recover my productivity at work. Fucking dumb-ass shrink put me on Xanax and I took it like a moron.

  10. While the thought has crossed my mind, it was only scarcely. So no, not really.

  11. Some kind of yet non-existing therapy to fix my creep factor for starters. Better genetics wouldn't hurt either.

  12. Not since I finished college. Didn't bother keeping in touch and neither did anyone else so we gradually faded apart.

  13. Haha! I creep out even my own mom sometimes. Other relatives think I'm closeted gay.

  14. Yes but that wouldn't solve anything in the long run. And it would also make me "that guy who lost his virginity to a prostitute".

coalitionofilling 28 points29 points 27 days ago

As a guy with no shame, can I get clarification on 14? Are you saying you'd rather remain a virgin than have sex with a beautiful prostitute? Whats wrong with losing your virginity to a prostitute by the way? And who has to know that a) youre a virgin or b) you lost your virginity to a prostitute? Thats entirely up to you to tell anyone or keep a secret.

bignuggiesugly skinnyfat oldcel baldcel normcel STEMcel wristcel 34 points35 points 26 days ago

For me, and lamefggt might agree, but prostitutes do not fulfill the "belonging, intimate relationship, and love" needs of a human. Losing your virginity to a prostitute just says "yep, I'm an undesirable loser" to society. It's not about sex for incels, it's about love and intimacy, which prostitutes fake, and is only temporary for $200 an hour.

not_my_name_at_all 27 points28 points 26 days ago

as a professional companion -- and yes, i realize you probably automatically loathe me because of this -- i have to say that while yes, the vast majority of the time escorts are faking it ... not always.

i don't love anyone the first time i meet them, but i have friends i've been seeing for years now. i really do love them, and i tell them that i love them, as long as i think they won't get too freaked out by it. they're like friends with benefits, but like actual friends (since FWB seems to have become synonymous with fuckbuddies anymore, i think the 2 concepts are different though). maybe we don't or can't have a normal relationship, but i care about them and have warm and tender feelings for them. sometimes we get together and just hang out. no money changing hands. no sex, either, but we'll grab dinner, a few drinks, or coffee, and just chill and talk.

and i don't fake anything. that said, i'm super careful about how i market myself to increase the chances i will genuinely enjoy myself. i won't see anyone twice who i didn't enjoy myself with the first time.

that said, i know most other escorts aren't like me. (and i'm not saying that to be cocky -- girls who do things differently are generally more attractive than i am and make a TON more money, lol. i've often been called an ugly duckling in the escort world, women have literally written huge posts on message boards where escorts & hobbyists interact to go on huge diatribes about my every physical flaw and how could i possibly be successful, etc.) i'm just saying, it's not impossible.

but yes, men are constantly shamed for seeing escorts. ppl mock them and say they must not be able to get it anywhere else, even when that's not true -- there are plenty of reasons men can choose to see escorts. and there's definitely a lot of stigma and shame tied in especially w/"losing virginity" to an escort. so i see where you're coming from.

bignuggiesugly skinnyfat oldcel baldcel normcel STEMcel wristcel 7 points8 points 25 days ago

I don't loathe sex workers, in fact I think it's something that should be legalized especially given the current state of the sexual marketplace. Society has maximized female hypergamy and minimized any sort of risk or accountability for a woman who chooses to live a lifestyle where she tries to cap out her hypergamy, so what we're seeing is more and more average (and especially below average) guys being denied sex and companionship. So I think prostitution is at least helpful in some way for sure, it doesn't solve the problem but it definitely helps guys cope. But, I don't think society will go that way, women have too much power now a days especially in the context of the sexual marketplace so legalizing prostitution would take some power away from non-sex working women, and god forbid society even consider that, <sarcasm> I mean think of how oppressed women are now a days!! </sarcasm>

I don't doubt that there are some escorts like you who befriend and care about their regulars, but as the nature of sex work goes, that's not something a guy should ever expect from an escort. A good john has to have certain expectations for the interaction.

coalitionofilling 7 points8 points 26 days ago

Yeah I totally agree with you and get what you're saying about there being no substitute for the real deal when it comes to intimacy and a relationship. I just read the rules (it's my first time stumbling across this place) and I think rule 2 is a good one. I'm def not insinuating that a prostitute or that sex in general "fixes" anything.

B-U-T

Isn't there something to be said about fulfilling the desire for sex with a beautiful girl, period? Even if it's some bucket list shit like traveling to some exotic location?

Yeah, the cons are that you don't get the relationship or intimacy and your wallet will get a little thinner until your next paycheck. That said, if you want to at least experience sex, and perhaps gain a little self-confidence so you don't freak out when/if you're ever in the position to get laid with a girl you actually dig... Those $200-600 really go a long way. I remember being terrified of all sorts if weird crap with the first few girls I had sex with. Scared that I'd lose my erection when it was time to get going, scared I wasn't big enough (porn makes you insecure when you're a teen and/or virgin) and would get laughed at or be a let down, and most importantly- scared I wouldn't know wtf I was doing and be super awkward/ not be able to please a girl. I kinda wish I woulda lost my virginity to a pro just to stamp out the anxiety.

P.S. I don't believe society thinks that having sex with a prostitute or going to a strip club means you're undesirable. I think the statistics in America, a pretty prude country, are that 20% of men have paid for sex at least once. Two out of Ten in a pretty conservative country is pretty damn high and there are way less fulfilling ways of spending that $200 an hour (in my humble opinion). In any case, thanks for the response.

Any how, shameless prostitute advocate signing off.

Padfoot42069 6 points7 points 27 days ago

Alia could literally be a shitty philosopher taught alongside the others

ahkwhatever 6 points7 points 27 days ago
  1. Whatever

  2. 19 Discovered 17.

  3. no

  4. Ah. Nah. Don't think so.

  5. Yeah kinda. Didn't work.

  6. They always say iT gEtS bEtTeR. It doesn't.

  7. my friends

  8. Most women i have encountered xd

  9. Yes. Currently doing one. But im beyond repairable :)))))

  10. yes

  11. stop male genital mutilation you sick fucks. and we're supposed to have mental illness ahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

  12. Yes. Kinda.Just joking xd

  13. Was sexually abused by my parents.(especially my mother :)))))))))))) I guess you can call it like that. Like "rape" i guess. Yeah have some scars left like physically. You can actually see them. My little joe looks like someone burnt the top of it hehe xd she should die. i think that's fair :/ And yeah my daddy was sometimes mean to me and taught me how to behave better by beating some days 10+hours continously. Or 12. I don't know anymore.

  14. Yeah but didn't do it. It's not really what i want.

Yeah. Sorry for my english. Not my first language. Just HANG IN THERE. It gETs bETeR. BEEtEeeRrRRr

not_my_name_at_all 5 points6 points 26 days ago

just wanted to say that i totally agree with you regarding #11. here in America, it's just ... what we do. i'm really glad that the book on pregnancy & childbirth i picked up when i was pregnant with my oldest son happened to mention that circumcision was actually an elective surgery -- believe it or not, i had no idea that it was optional. as soon as i found out it wasn't medically necessary, i knew i could never do that to any innocent baby. it needs to end.

so sorry to hear about your history of abuse. children deserve to be cherished and protected. your parents are supposed to be some of the safest people for you. you deserved that.

justforlulzandkeksKHH, voicecel, eyecel, headcel, suicel, cyborg 28 points29 points 27 days ago

when people take an Alia post seriously

hapacellow t high inhibcel, norwoodcel, studycel 17 points18 points 27 days ago

Fakecels who've been browsing the sub for < a week

Hatemylifecel 1 point2 points 27 days ago

At what length of time in the sub does a fakecel become a truecel?

Full_SupportWhy even try 9 points10 points 27 days ago

The chance of someone just "discovering" /r/incels in the last 48 hours is slim. Most of the people that have been here have been here for a while.

Nobody on /r/incels is ADVERTISING this subreddit, so how exactly is our membership increasing? The answer: Hateful normies brigading.

not_my_name_at_all 3 points4 points 26 days ago

well, i don't consider myself hateful and don't hate incels, but there are certainly sizeable swaths of the internet devoted to mocking this sub, so you're likely correct.

The_Syndic 24 points25 points 27 days ago

Hateful normies brigading.

Not exactly hateful, more morbid curiosity.

bilnight 1 point2 points 27 days ago

It's kind of weird. I can't actually remember how I found this. But if feels like I've been here forever.

ObliviouslyThrowaway 59 points60 points 27 days ago
  1. How would you define an incel?

InCel literaly stands for involuntary celibacy. If you have trouble finding intimate (not exclusively, but admittedly primarily sexual) partner for a prolonged period of time, you are an incel.

  1. How old are you, and at what age did you discover you might be an incel?

I'm 28. I realized things might not go as I expected sometime around 19 - 20. Disclaimer: I have lost my virginity a few years ago, way late into my 20s, to a borderline bi-polar woman who, to my knowledge, has been incel before and since then. I was forced to end the relationship due to her growing unhealthy attachment and related mind-games.

  1. Is it true that you worship Elliot Rodger?

I do not. Elliot acted out of frustration. Most people, even InCels, are fully capable to cope with the frustration of unsuccessfully putting in effort to attract partners, without resulting to violence. This place is one of the ways to cope. There will always be people who cannot handle frustration in general, and being InCel is just one of things that may cause frustration.

  1. Do you hate women?

No. Women are just acting out their human needs. However, I do dislike women who follow their dualistic mating strategy. Providing sex to attractive males, and settling down with the unattractive ones willing to provide, when they have "had their fun" and want to settle down. I understand there may be biological reasons for this, but the same could be said about some other undesirable male behaviours men were "forced" by society to curtail, for benefit of the society as a whole. In other words, I am angry at the society which supports this behaviour, clearly beneficial primarily to women. And at the same time which shuns other similarly morally objectionable male behaviours, precisely because they are primarily beneficial to men.

  1. Have you tried approaching women?

Not in PUA sense, no. I have tried to find a partner through social circles, as most people do. It all but one instance, described above, I was unsuccessful.

I now feel stuck in a no-win scenario: *Remain incel until women of my generation have had their fill *"Settle" - I hate that word - with woman who have dangerous and deep rooted psychological issues, and were therefore rejected by everyone else. *Work on my interpersonal skills, which is shunned by general society as developing abusive techniques to trick women into relationships and sex

  1. Why do you hate "normies", and does that term refer to all people who aren't incel?

Normies reffers to everyone, but admittedly it is a strawman joke. The normies out there make fun of us, belittle us and humiliate any attempts at "getting better". They are the well adapted inhabitants of society which we could not adapt to, and they find it funny at best or creepy at worst.

  1. What is a Chad?

A prototypical thug - bro - bully male. For some inexplicable reason attractive to women in their "best years"

  1. What is a Stacy?

A promiscuous woman who tries to get one of the Chads throughout her "best years", only to settle for a less desirable man when it is clear to her she cannot have one of the Chads, and her biological clock started ticking.

  1. Have you tried therapy?

No. I find myself in an occupation where any indication or medical record suggesting any kind of mental issues would be the end of my career.

I understand that this particular response may sound too much tinfoil for you, but it is something you will need to take my word for.

  1. Would you say you're suicidal?

Yes, in a sense that suicide has crossed my mind. So far the amount of pain in my life has not reached the proverbial edge of the cup. Unless things go way worse, I am not in any danger of going through with it.

  1. What do YOU think would help improve your situation?

Very good question. I have a few ideas, but nothing I know would guarantee success. Here are things that might make my life easier:

*PUA workshops becoming more mainstream. It is hard for not so well socially versed person to take course aimed at improving their social skills, when the course it self is considered to be "bad" by normies. *Re-introduction of societal pressures -- or norms as the polite normies like to call them -- which historically prevented serial monogamy and promiscuity in favor of long-term partner selection. *Hell, even society accepting that there are people like us, and we are not (all) out there to kill normies would help. You don't make fun of a disabled person. Why make fun of us?

  1. Do you have friends?

Yes

  1. What's your relationship with your parents?

My dad is very smart, somewhat eccentric and what would most people of this sub now call "beta". I would call our relationship good. Not close.

My mom is very neurotic, choleric and controlling. I suspect she is borderline narcissistic. Looking back, I feel like her main goal was to provide for me materially and not much else.

  1. Did you consider a prostitute?

Yes, but didn't go through with it. While I do enjoy sex, I am primarily looking for a life partner.

Edit: formatting, wording, interpunction

Edit2: Speeches are for campaigning. Now is the time to read the user name.

Edit3: Seems like my replies do not show up. Have I been shadow-banned by our welcoming community?

not_my_name_at_all 12 points13 points 26 days ago

thanks, this was a really insightful post. i am curious about one thing (well, several things, but i'll stick with this one) you wrote:

"PUA workshops becoming more mainstream. It is hard for not so well socially versed person to take course aimed at improving their social skills, when the course it self is considered to be 'bad' by normies."

there are other ways to work on improving your interpersonal skills. i find many facets of PUA dogma vaguely predatory in nature, and the primary goal seems to be to bed a woman. some incels seem to believe that while they strongly desire sex, they also long for love and intimacy. as i'm sure you know, though, knowing how to get a woman into bed is vastly different than knowing how to build and nurture healthy relationships. i just think there are better/different/more comprehensive ways to improve interpersonal skills, even in the dating world.

thanks again for sharing your thoughts with us. i really enjoyed your comment.

[deleted] 34 points35 points 27 days ago

Come on dude, most women aren't "Stacey" and most guys aren't "Chad". It's not at all creepy for you to learn interpersonal skills. Some people enjoying sex more casually doesn't mean there is no-one interested in monogamy anymore. An awful lot of people still think swingers etc are "perverted" and that hood old fashioned monogamy is the only way (I think people should do what makes them happy, even if that's 50 different people). You just need to meet the right person. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that bars and alcohol are the only way to meet women. Find some hobbies you like and get involved in their communities and you'll eventually meet a women who shares some ideals/goals with you etc and you might hit it off. Also one last thing, if you do go fuck a prostitute it might significantly reduce your anxiety around women, making things much easier on you in future encounters. Don't let people tell you that you have to fuck a prostitute though, I never have myself and have no interest in doing so (I got enough action tho so who knows what I would have done otherwise :/)

Hatemylifecel 12 points13 points 27 days ago

Wrong. So fucking wrong

jj-xyz 17 points18 points 27 days ago

1 Someone who is is a virgin and has no chance of ever getting late, due to various reasons

2 I am 30. It first came clear to me that I will never be able to get a women when I was 22. I am just weird, socially awkward and I suffer from light to mediocre social anxiety.

3 No, just like another user said, he is just a great meme.

4 No, not at all. I like women and I respect them. I also respect that they do not want to be intimate with me. It just sucks for be, because like at least 98% of the population I also have sexual desires, and it is a bit agonizing to not have these desires satisfied, which is why I am a bit bitter.

5 Yes. In several cases I got not just rejected, but also humilated and when I was 22, it got to a point where I just could not take this constant rejection and humiliation anymore and I realized that this will not change, so I started to isolate myself and withdrew from approaching women.

6 No, I don't hate people who are normal, maybe just a bit jealous.

7+8 I am new to this community, but i think that Chad refers to a very good looking guy who does not have to do much to get women and a Stacy is an attractive women who is very desired.

9 Yes, several times. Did not help me to get women. It is probably that I am just too damaged inside and maybe even to ugly...

10 I am not really suicidal in the way that I intent to do it, but sometimes I wish I just would be dead and it would be over – like in a melancholic way.

11 Well, I have already given up on getting a women. I realize that this will never work out and i have accepted it. Besides that what would help is to have more money available, because it would allow me to have more freedom.

12 Nope. I really would like to have friends, but in my current situation I just prefer to be on my own. Maybe this has something to do with trust issues, idk.

60 Nope, and I also do not intent to do so. It is not just sex, but also about being really wanted and desired and doing it with a prostitute would just be fake. Also, I would feel not so good with harassing her with my patheticness.

not_my_name_at_all 6 points7 points 26 days ago

your description of suicidal ideation definitely still qualifies as being suicidal. wishing you simply didn't exist counts, at least in my opinion. it's what i describe as "mundane suicidal ideation," and i experience it much of the time -- where i don't necessarily actively want to take my own life, but wish i just wasn't here. at times it becomes more intense and i actively wish to take my own life, but a lot of times it's just ... i'm tired and i don't want to do this anymore, sort of thing.

thank you for your post and for sharing your thoughts with us. you seem like a truly kind and caring person and i hope you find someone for you someday -- you deserve it.

[deleted] 2 points3 points 26 days ago

Damn dude. Sorry you’re feeling that way, but it sounds like all you need is more confidence and to work on yourself a little. Social skills are important, especially how you approach a woman and what you say. A quote I really like is “how can you expect someone to love you if you can’t even love yourself?”. Seriously so much truth behind it.

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GeneticDysfunction 2 points3 points 28 days ago

My face sucks dawg

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RasterDeluge 7 points8 points 28 days ago

1. 2. 3. 4. Yes 5. Yes 6. 7. 8. 9. No 10. No 11. Stop male genital mutilation. 60. That's gross.

PorschephileGT3 2 points3 points 27 days ago

As a respectful and hopefully insightful aside to OP, regarding point 11:

Are you circumcised and wish you weren't? And why? For the record I am absolutely against the practice and have no idea why it's an acceptable thing to do to an infant (in the US, at least).

RasterDeluge -1 points0 points 26 days ago

Yeah lady, if your vagina girl parts were cut off and it led to dryness and reduced pleasure from sex, it also made any partner you had wishing you were uncut so the sex felt better, maybe you would take issue with it. What a stupid thing to say, honestly. Cunt mothers cutting up their suns genitals, and putting them in expensive female face cream. because women are awesome.

[deleted] 18 points19 points 26 days ago

I can’t tell whether you’re clinically insane or just incredibly stupid.

http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/guide/circumcision

I suggest you read this article before you talk out of your ass.

Male Circumcision came from religion, not women. On top of that, it was men who started the practice. Most people do it now because of religion or because the father is circumcised. Circumcision is equally the fathers choice as the mothers.

Also what woman has ever said she wished her partner was uncut? Lol. I never met a woman that had a problem with circumcision. In fact, I’ve never met a woman who gave a flying fuck.

RasterDeluge -1 points0 points 25 days ago

Go to hell and die there. This grave injustice will serve as fuel. There will be a reckoning.

not_my_name_at_all 2 points3 points 26 days ago

whoa.

yes, in the US, circumcision was popularized by Kellogg as a way of forcing boys to associate touching their genitals w/pain, thus deterring them from masturbation (not saying it worked, just that that was the goal).

nonetheless, it is not at all uncommon for women to VEHEMENTLY defend neonatal circumcision, often with truly sickening commentary like "well, i'd never have sex with one of those nasty things [an intact penis]." which is really fucking disturbing, given that they're using their own sexual preferences to justify ripping apart their baby's genitals. trying to deflect from that with "it's the father's choice too" is pretty tasteless, frankly.

[deleted] 3 points4 points 27 days ago

Circumcision is barbaric and will be looked back upon in horror at some point in the future.

StarvedOfHumanTouch 12 points13 points 28 days ago

1 ...60

I wish I were dead

wandercampEmbracing the sublime terror of incel existance 13 points14 points 28 days ago

1: Involuntary Celebrate.

2: 23. 20 or so I realized

3: I do

4: Yes

5: Yes

6: They are literally a blight on the human soul. If it wasn't for normies we would have perfect fascist superstate by now, and I would have never been born.

7: The Ayryan Avatar. The man of action. The man that moves history. The top 20%

8: I don't use that term

9: Yes, didn't work

10: I'm esoterically suicidal. I view the rope as a sweet embrace of true life, where this one is simply a simulcra of the shadow on Pluto's cave. I remain living to better understand life's horror and educate the masses.

11: Rope

12: No

13: shit

60: I wouldn't know how to get one. Fake intimacy would be a sublime rejection of the true consciousness I still have. I refuse.

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Not_Always_A_Menace 7 points8 points 28 days ago

Perfect example of victim blaming right here. Women date people who treat others like shit all the time. Difference is, we don't have the looks to go along with it.

It is not our fault that women find us unattractive. It is their fault.

grasping_eye 7 points8 points 28 days ago

Normie asking: What do you think women should change in their behaviour, if it's their fault they dont find you attractive?

Also, if you dont mind answering: What do you mean by "fault" What makes you attractive?

Have a nice day!

Not_Always_A_Menace 6 points7 points 28 days ago

What do you think women should change in their behavior, if it's their fault they don't find you attractive?

Oh I don't know, maybe they should stop being hypocritical cunts? They complain about how men aren't entitled to a girlfriend or sex and then complain when they don't have a boyfriend (even though literally all women can have a boyfriend incredibly easily). They only date men in the top 20% of the looks department, and when a man passes their ridiculously high looks threshold they will forgive any personality flaws or negative traits. They will even forgive horrible acts committed by attractive men (look at Jeremy Meeks).

What do you mean by fault Are you retarded? It means they are the only thing stopping us from dating. Incels are ready and willing to date almost any girl that would be willing to take us, but none of them are.

What makes you attractive? I'm not attractive, dumbass, that's why I'm incel. To be attractive you have to have perfect skin, be incredibly fit, be at least 6 feet tall, and have a strong jawline. Or as women put it, "have a good personality."

Have a nice day!

Fuck off

[deleted] 13 points14 points 27 days ago

Your blaming women for not being attracted to you but it's pretty obvious that you are wanting to only date gorgeous women. Have you tried settling for less? You come across as completely insane by the way.

grasping_eye 2 points3 points 28 days ago

From how I understood it, you think of yourself as attractive even though superficial women dont appreciate it. That was what i was on about, which attributes of yourself do you like?

I am Not trying to make Fun of you Guys, i seriously want to understand (and maybe even learn something).

Do the same rules that women apply to dating apply for being friends as well. If no, do you have female friends?

4mags127/khv/balding/shitjob/nofriends/bpd mom 24 points25 points 28 days ago
  1. a virgin loser who has zero romantic or sexual experience with women and who won't be having any
  2. 27, been truecel since 23 out of college where i got no action and didnt realize other ppl got action
  3. no, i just think he's a great meme. his manifesto and life story is purecel and it totally resonated with me. when he got into the violent thoughts and stuff for real then it got out there and scary but many guys have felt hatred for women and the way they treat us so it was sorta relatable. for real though it's an amazing read. the guy was a psycho aspie but he was like a crazy exagerration of an incel
  4. yeah but i don't fume about it. i understand their true nature and when i first swallowed the black pill i was angry and misogynistic. within a few yrs i just accepted it and the anger became hoplessenss and realizing they're just shallow whores who want chad's cock and literally every other thing they can get in their dream world imagination and dream girly life. if ur not chad then it's hard to find a girl who's worth the cost of a relationship
  5. cuz they could be allies but they're delusional morons who deep down understand we;re ight but push the truth/thoughts away thinkin they could be chad-like some day. if the normies joined us we could revolt against the system and the chads and women.
  6. athletic, handsome, capable of providing for a girl, sexes up a bunch of girls, usually a jock who bullies us, is redpilled on women, and is what 99 pct of girls want in men.
  7. a typical girl who wants chad's cock and all that cums with it
  8. forced to go a couple of times by mom but later found out that she's actually the crazy one and has borderline personality disorder and was probably in a looney asylum for a while when she was in her 20s. if i go to therapy now it's gonna be to talk about all my problems and incel life. i have no shame. the therapist is just gonna have to listen to my incel thoughts for 80 bucks a session and deal.
  9. not yet but chronic depression and hopelessness. when i hit 30 i could become suicidal.
  10. good looks and not trash genetics. i have no other problems. ugliness is why i'm incel and my life's a nightmare. there are no other issues as serious.
  11. no. not since high school.
  12. wish they were six feet under. no relationship tho i live with them. i try to ignore them and stay away from them in my room.

Ramza_Claus 3 points4 points 27 days ago

Thank you for taking the time to give an actual answer.

I'd like to discuss this stuff with you further if you're interested. Totally cool if you're not.

[deleted] 0 points1 point 15 days ago

wtf why? are you going to sell him some PUA bullshit?

[deleted] 12 points13 points 28 days ago

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shinslap 11 points12 points 28 days ago

Picky & Slutty woman

wut?

MyGFisSexyAF 55 points56 points 28 days ago

"Do you approach women?" ... "no, but not for lack of trying."

I'm sorry, what?

PearlSquared 12 points13 points 28 days ago

You know this is satire right

negativelist 19 points20 points 28 days ago

Hi, I don't know if this is satire or not but I will answer.

  1. I do not know. I just come here cause I can really relate to these stories lack of a relationship and the social stigma of trying to date and sometimes exist in society.

  2. 25 now and I guess H.S

  3. I don't know who that is honestly

  4. No not at all. I just wish I could find someone who wanted to be in a relationship with me.

  5. Yeah, a few times on the train. I mostly do online dating with no success.

  6. I just think they cannot relate and a lot of platitudes or general advice is unhelpful. Sometimes people need to vent and should not be ostracized for that.

  7. I would say that is someone who is genetically lucky with looks and perhaps couples that with a either natural good physique or an attractive body to women who is an asshole, playboy, etc that can seemingly get any women he wants but treats them like junk.

  8. A extremely promiscuous woman who then complains about men despite making not necessarily the best choices in romantic partners.

  9. No

  10. No

  11. First and foremost a bigger dick would make me feel more confident about sex generally and pleasing my partner so I would be more risky and approach women. Also being taller. At 5'7 it is a death zone. I have a decent job as an attorney but still ugly

  12. I have acquaintances at work like the people I work with who I don't spend time with after work and who i don't see after work but I speak to between the hours of 9 to 5 Monday through Friday

  13. Okay

  14. I would if it were legal in my state

keksicus5245 1 point2 points 25 days ago

You don't know our dark prophet Elliot Roger?!!

not_my_name_at_all 5 points6 points 26 days ago

satire or not, i sincerely appreciate what you wrote.

PearlSquared 8 points9 points 28 days ago

It is... very clearly satire.

negativelist 3 points4 points 28 days ago

Oh my apologies.

Bevfrancisdawg 8 points9 points 28 days ago

I don't know if OP is being satirical, but I found your response thoughtful and informative. Thanks.

inuyoshihuecel 6 points7 points 28 days ago

1- A virgin who never or almost never received sexual validation from any woman, never kissed, never had sex. the life of a child does not count, nor rape or using escorts.

2 - 26, I discovered that I was an incel at age 25 when I discovered this sub. Before that I had hope, everything made sense when I discovered this sub.

3 - I do not, but I do not hate him like normal people. Indifferent. However, he had to kill several people to finally have a woman validation. https://archive.org/details/youtube-JblflIdXZ0Q.

If I were a minor, I would do something shocking to achieve this, in Brazil underage can do anything and is not arrested.

4 - At times, yes, but that's a cope. If you hate women, you do not need to validate women. Feelings are not easy to be controlled.

5 - Yes

6 - Normies do not like "men" or put the female sex on the pedestal.

7 - A man 8/10, several women go after him. Usually men go after women, in the case of Chad, many women go after him.

8 - Any woman 5/10 up

9 - When I was a teenager, yes, it was a waste of time and money. In addition I have seen several stories of marriage therapists who put the blame on the husband, even when his wife betrays him. I also saw several stories of psychologists who do not make the least idea how to help crazy people. Is a scam.

10 - Yes, I'm already committing my suicide by having sex with escorts without a condom. Mostly shemales escorts, they usually have more diseases. They are also a good cope and bring me sexual validation, as they were born as a man they get excited by different types of people, they get hard on sex and this gives a good sexual chemistry.

11 - The government legalizing euthanasia for humans. Incels are still human and have instincts of physical pain, survival instinct and fear. A death without pain would be of great help to us.

12 - Yes, and incredible as it may seem, many of them being women

13 - Indifferent. But I'm grateful that they raised me until I became an adult.

keksicus5245 0 points1 point 25 days ago

10 - Yes, I'm already committing my suicide by having sex with escorts without a condom. Mostly shemales escorts, they usually have more diseases. They are also a good cop and bring me sexual validation, as they were born as a man they get excited by different types of people, they get hard on sex and this gives a good sexual chemistry.

Gays are not incel. You do not belong here.

not_my_name_at_all 3 points4 points 26 days ago

10 hurt to read. i understand risky behavior and not valuing your own life, but damn, i hope you find some reason, any reason, to care enough about yourself to be a little safer. thanks for your honesty.

AnxietyDuderinoLost in time...like tears, in rain. 13 points14 points 28 days ago

hey alia hark---, i mean hey normie. i will do you the courtesy of answering your well thought out and introspective questions.

  1. no p in v

  2. twenty three. at age 5.

  3. lord and saviour

  4. of course

  5. no never not once, as a typical incel, i am entitled to them approaching me

  6. because reee

  7. attractive man

  8. attractive woman

  9. no because i dont want to get sex the easy way (therapy instantly makes you sexually attractive)

  10. is the sky blue

  11. all normies and chad to get out

  12. imaginary ones

  13. oh well its funny...blah blah blah

blah 60. im entitled to have sex with prositutes for free

cool144 5 points6 points 28 days ago

condescending title and post. just because a man hasn't gotten laid now he is treated like a child

AutismoCircusMcAssburger CEO 11 points12 points 28 days ago

Are you new here? OP is a satirist.

WernerGoldberg 13 points14 points 28 days ago

When replying to rude comments, be sure not to disagree with anyone or say anything remotely rude back. If you do you will instantly be labeled a troll and banned within a couple hours.

emergencyDAD 9 points10 points 28 days ago

Chad here I'm Chad and I love me some roasters

LooksMatterToWomenDark Purple Pill 0 points1 point 28 days ago

Arby's tastes good :).

blackpilled_incelcurries are doomed 25 points26 points 28 days ago

Updoot 4 pupper 1!1!!111! XD ;)

Full_SupportWhy even try 15 points16 points 28 days ago

Pupper is such a dumb name for a dog.

64_kitchen_sinks 7 points8 points 28 days ago

I have a friend with a 15 year old dog named pupper. He's a pretty chill dog.

Full_SupportWhy even try 2 points3 points 28 days ago

You mean you have a 15 year old friend because most trendfags are high schoolers

64_kitchen_sinks 5 points6 points 28 days ago

Lol you made it to second base and didn't even fuck?!

blackpilled_incelcurries are doomed 14 points15 points 28 days ago

I fucking hate that word.and doggo. Who the fuck thinks it's funny unironically

DennisIsABastardMann 7 points8 points 28 days ago

Bork bork

ZebediahKillgraveSpyelbowcel 23 points24 points 28 days ago

y'all

Kek

Faar2muchthe gods have questioned my existence 8 points9 points 28 days ago
  1. An incel is someone, for whatever reason (but it is typically due to physical characteristics, with some exceptions) cannot have an intimate romantic experience. They are male, as women of all shapes and sizes can find relationships (hypergamy). But there is more to being an incel. There is the utter hatred and dislike of their entire existence, even though they are only physically/socially flawed. Incels will struggle working, going to school, asking for directions, going to the gym because they are often shamed for being ugly beyond their control.

  2. 19, discovered it last year.

  3. I don't worship anyone, but Elliot Rodger very eloquently explained the pain that we incels feel. I do not condone his random murders.

  4. Not all women. Few women can look past my looks and accept me as a friend. However, women have been conditioned by society to act very irrationally. An attractive guy is more likely to befriend an ugly woman than the other way around.

  5. No.

  6. We hate normies because they tend to be brainwashed. Because they do not live life in extreme pain, they are unable to understand the intricate social dynamics which create incels.

  7. A Chad is someone who is very attractive. They can range from drunk frat idiots to intelligent people.

  8. A Stacy is a physically attractive woman that is incredibly high maintenance. They like drama, making fun of incels, and they are described as being in a "totally different world than incels" because they are so happy and have so many friends validating their existence. They are typically not very cognitively gifted.

  9. Yes, to moderate success.

  10. Yes, but very stable. Imagine if my life was held by 20 strings. 19 of the strings have already ripped, but the last string is incredibly tough. Life is no doubt painful.

  11. I would say probably say either sex, or chemical castration. The problem with the latter is that it could negatively effect my amazing physique.

  12. Yes.

  13. It is alright.

incelthrowaway350835 16 points17 points 28 days ago

Hi,

Femail here. I know these questions aren't directed at me but I'm a femail (did I mention I'm a femail?) and my beta orbiters are constantly telling me how smart and insightful I am so I'm going to give my much needed opinion and advice.

These losers just need an attitude adjustment. Clearly their posts on a subforum of reddit is what is making them perpetual virgins.

I have some tips for these guys:

  1. Like Instagram photos! Nothing gets me wetter than seeing the 147th guy like my photo.
  2. Constantly tell me how smart I am, hold open doors for me and be a doormat. I love and respect men who do this for me.
  3. Send $10 to my paypal account. There's nothing hotter than a man whose willing to give me money for no reason whatsoever. I'm spreading my legs right now just thinking about it.
  4. Do all of my work/homework for me. Men are so attractive when they do my work for me.

You're welcome!

vx1volcel-no fat chix 84 points85 points 28 days ago

Don't forget to add

Edit: no wonder you're all lonely and pathetic virgins. girls can tell you are all desperate misogynists. I'm gonna go fuck my girlfriend now :)

sergeantincel/r/incelbrotherhood/ -1 points0 points 28 days ago

We need an auto ban for normies.

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 67 points68 points 28 days ago

Thank you for your input! May I ask how have I offended you? I just want to start a dialogue.

sergeantincel/r/incelbrotherhood/ 2 points3 points 28 days ago

Heh. You're doing it too well, i'm almost believing it. Disturbing.

LostGundyr 15 points16 points 28 days ago

What the fuck is wrong with you?

BasedTruecel2Deformed 1/10 circus freak 16 points17 points 28 days ago

Not getting the satire of this post

Being this retarded

It's okay, a bunch of others who downvoted him and upvoted OP thought this wasn't satire and are retarded as well. You're not the only one. Also understandable you're a pseudonormie beta cuck. They tend to not be very smart.

justforlulzandkeksKHH, voicecel, eyecel, headcel, suicel, cyborg 10 points11 points 28 days ago

LOL the irony

sergeantincel/r/incelbrotherhood/ 10 points11 points 28 days ago

You missed the point, norman.

[deleted] -4 points-3 points 28 days ago

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Alia_Harkonnen[S] 19 points20 points 28 days ago

I'm sorry you feel that way :( I honesty meant no harm. Best of luck to you! :)

Bojack101 -3 points-2 points 28 days ago

Fuck u bitch

Tessbott 13 points14 points 28 days ago

I only wish you find your way, find happiness, and know that life is worth living.

The best of luck to you. You are loved, you are worth life.

Bojack101 5 points6 points 28 days ago

Oh man you got that fortune cookie shit going for u

retarded_dumbshitle username related xdd 2 points3 points 27 days ago

OHH that's a nice way of putting it. I hope that phrase sticks to me, it's very nice.

Bojack101 2 points3 points 27 days ago

You live up to your name

THICC_incelT H I C C 24 points25 points 28 days ago

Make sure to start with "Thank you soo much for your input!" And end with "Thank you sooooo much for response again! It is sooo important to have a dialogue :)"

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 23 points24 points 28 days ago

I had to use this

THICC_incelT H I C C 24 points25 points 28 days ago

Also dont forget to forcefully highlight your own life to make this more about you than the subhuman incels

1 - "my most recent ex...."

2 - "my current SO is sooo supportive...."

3 - "my sexual history is quite diverse and...."

4 - "We adopted a foster pupper and...."

Sniveling_Cur 13 points14 points 28 days ago

Don't forget to say "Thank you for responding :)" to every single goddamn post.

[deleted] 4 points5 points 28 days ago

time wasting through lengthy surveys is one of the more insidious forms of trolling

HomoheroBishiiincels give me your energy 17 points18 points 28 days ago

Can also replace "norman" with "femail here" and the same patronizing passive aggressive bullshit seeps through. Tl;dr version is "I view y'all as a freakshow, still please give me attention while I pretend to care and learn (but actually only trying to virtue signal)."

Also can't forget how the same normie sends nasty PMs the moment we kick out them out instead of entertaining their stupid questions.

undeadcel 12 points13 points 28 days ago

their hobby is pretending to be a psychologist

[deleted] 21 points22 points 28 days ago

Jesus Christ this is PERFECT.

andinuad -7 points-6 points 28 days ago

Backtracking your threads I see one named "And fuck the blackopscel meme too" and therefore your "First, I mean no harm or offense." that you claim in this post is either a lie or hypocrisy.

oddomatonsnorting crushed blackpills with rolled up $100 bills 9 points10 points 28 days ago

Become less retarded

LifeIsALiquid 12 points13 points 28 days ago

...

Wow.

So you went that far down alia's posting history and you somehow didn't catch up on the fact that he is an incel?

andinuad 0 points1 point 28 days ago

you somehow didn't catch up on the fact that he is an incel?

That is less relevant than his opinion about blackops2cel. I didn't have to search further.

lonelyreee10 years of self improvement = 25 khhv with pectus carinatum👱🔫 2 points3 points 28 days ago

lonelyreee10 years of self improvement = 25 khhv with pectus carinatum👱🔫 12 points13 points 28 days ago

I'm sorry but are you slow?

THICC_incelT H I C C 7 points8 points 28 days ago

Mentalcel is a thing

RippedRichAndIncelIt's all a cope except the rope 55 points56 points 28 days ago

y'all

Saw this and checked the username. God tier satire.

esr360 0 points1 point 12 days ago

I've visited this sub like 4 times and knew it was satire when I saw "ya'll". Ya'll just really hate it when people say ya'll.

Alia_Harkonnen[S] 91 points92 points 28 days ago

Also, when y'all say you've never held anyone's hand, does that mean ever in your life? Do relatives count? How did you cross the street when you were 3?

Apologies about my ignorance I hope this isn't triggering anyone i just want to learn! Thank you!

StopCopingStartLDARit's almost as if y'all 38 points39 points 28 days ago

when y'all say y'all've never

FTFY

TheSubPrimethe Pope of Cope 43 points44 points 28 days ago

How did you cross the street when you were 3?

It wasn't easy but I used my tiny penis to spray at passing cars until they got angry and stopped, causing catastrophically crashes, but in the end it all worked out and I got to be at the other side!~

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